(March 24, 2014 at 7:36 pm)Heywood Wrote: Are you suggesting facts cannot be used to convey an anti-religious message?

Are you saying facts have an anti-religious bias?

(March 25, 2014 at 1:36 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(March 24, 2014 at 7:36 pm)Heywood Wrote: Are you suggesting facts cannot be used to convey an anti-religious message?

Are you saying facts have an anti-religious bias?

It is the way they think, DBP. And they are correct.

Quote:Priests...dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subversions of the duperies on which they live.

-Thomas Jefferson

(March 25, 2014 at 1:46 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(March 25, 2014 at 1:36 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Are you saying facts have an anti-religious bias?

It is the way they think, DBP. And they are correct.

Quote:Priests...dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subversions of the duperies on which they live.

-Thomas Jefferson

Reality has a subtle way of infuriating those who choose delusion over fact. The more "Fundamental" the belief the more it contrasts with what we KNOW to be true and the only counter they have is "Lol conspiracy" when the facts are laid out. But the more you look at the facts the more you wonder what if all this evidence is true. That is why creationists are so active now they are losing the war and know it. That cannot control the flow of information when all the knowledge in the world is a google search away.

Just to remind ya all

(March 25, 2014 at 1:33 pm)Asimm Wrote: I fully support anti-religion undertones. Sorry that science doesn't fit your beliefs the way it's expressed through cosmos. Christianity needs to man up and understand that in this day and age everything is going to be criticized. It's not even a direct attack on religion and already the oppressors are trying to once again play the victim.

I have no problem whatsoever with the undertones. The problem I have is with mindless people who are blind to there existence. I hope they are not this unobservant as they navigate the rest of reality.

(March 25, 2014 at 7:44 pm)Heywood Wrote:

(March 25, 2014 at 1:33 pm)Asimm Wrote: I fully support anti-religion undertones. Sorry that science doesn't fit your beliefs the way it's expressed through cosmos. Christianity needs to man up and understand that in this day and age everything is going to be criticized. It's not even a direct attack on religion and already the oppressors are trying to once again play the victim.

I have no problem whatsoever with the undertones. The problem I have is with mindless people who are blind to there existence. I hope they are not this unobservant as they navigate the rest of reality.

True, they might end up like the theists.

(March 25, 2014 at 7:47 pm)Zen Badger Wrote:

(March 25, 2014 at 7:44 pm)Heywood Wrote: I have no problem whatsoever with the undertones. The problem I have is with mindless people who are blind to there existence. I hope they are not this unobservant as they navigate the rest of reality.

True, they might end up like the theists.

I find that most atheists are just as bad as most theist at failing at identifying when they are being fed an agenda.

And I am not saying there is something wrong about pushing an agenda...even if you employ undertones to do it. Persuasion is how we grow. What is wrong...what is sad really.....is for a reasonably bright person to not recognize it.

I'll admit that being anti-religion falls within the purview of being anti-ignorance. Deal?

Again, I'll point out that pointing out the shitty things that religion has done, and continues to do in order to hamper science is not necessarily anti-religious.

(March 25, 2014 at 8:58 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Again, I'll point out that pointing out the shitty things that religion has done, and continues to do in order to hamper science is not necessarily anti-religious.

I thought it was just history.