(March 25, 2014 at 5:28 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:

(March 25, 2014 at 1:28 pm)KUSA Wrote: I don't like his leftist views on guns. His looks are irrelevant.

His view is that they are a health risk in the wrong hands. His leftist tendencies are irrelevant. Give me a situation where openly carrying an assault rifle or any military-grade weapon is a good idea or actually deters crime. If that was the case, then all of America's police force would carry the same. From what i understand, a concealed handgun has much more potential as a violent crime deterrent. So, what exactly is it about his leftist views that you don't like? He has a legitimate concern, but it seems your own right agenda is getting in the way of understanding that.

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(March 25, 2014 at 3:47 pm)Chas Wrote: Humorous commentary is proof? Who knew?

When they make a succinct point, yes. People are more inclined to listen to comedians in some cases, so it becomes the perfect medium to get information out.

Logic fail. Opinion is neither proof nor evidence.

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(March 25, 2014 at 7:46 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:

(March 25, 2014 at 7:34 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: Ahhh, you Americans and your gun fetish's.

It would be funny if it weren't so fatal.

We have road laws to curb the death toll due to automobile accidents; gun laws and restrictions on carrying and owning simply make sense for the same reason. A lot of sense.

How's that working out?

In 2012, there were 34,080 traffic fatalities in the U.S.

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(March 25, 2014 at 9:40 pm)Zen Badger Wrote:

(March 25, 2014 at 9:30 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: If you buy a gun there, are you just not allowed to keep it on you?

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Correlation does not equal causation. Come, say it with me.

You can, but you have to keep it in a gun safe, shit like that.

But by the same token, gun ownership is not really a big deal for us.

The U.S. is not homogeneous regarding firearm regulation, so your generalizations are off the mark. There are 51+ sets of laws and regulations - federal, 50 states, and various local ordinances.

Where I live, for instance, the local police must approve a license application, a safety course is required, and state and federal background background checks are done. Gun safes and/or gun locks are required for every gun.

The logic fail is not mine, but yours, Chas. You wondered about the veracity of a claim due to the fact that it came from the mouth of a comedic political commentator. If a Christian tells you that 2+2=4, are you going to doubt them because of their religious background, or will you do the math on your own to check their work?

Now, if you want, you can explain whether or not the good doctor is wrong or right, and why it is that you think that. Until then, stop staggering the discussion by delving into semantics, nuances, and irrelevancies.

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The amount of traffic fatalities are the reason we have road laws. What exactly are you arguing? That we shouldn't have them?

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(March 25, 2014 at 9:41 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(March 25, 2014 at 9:30 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: If you buy a gun there, are you just not allowed to keep it on you?

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Correlation does not equal causation. Come, say it with me.

Interesting article . . .

"When all else fails, make it up". So true; not everyone is willing to fact check every claim, and it's hard to communicate to people that someone has lied.

(March 25, 2014 at 9:58 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(March 25, 2014 at 9:40 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: You can, but you have to keep it in a gun safe, shit like that.

You can't own anything worth a fuck in Australia. You might get a single shot 22 or some bullshit like that. You guys have been sissified.

Cool, I'll tell my aquaintance with the impressive collection of legally registered high power rifles and shotguns you said that.

I'm sure he'll be highly amused.

(March 26, 2014 at 6:12 am)Zen Badger Wrote:

(March 25, 2014 at 9:58 pm)KUSA Wrote: You can't own anything worth a fuck in Australia. You might get a single shot 22 or some bullshit like that. You guys have been sissified.

Cool, I'll tell my aquaintance with the impressive collection of legally registered high power rifles and shotguns you said that.

I'm sure he'll be highly amused.

How many AR15s does he have?

(March 26, 2014 at 1:03 am)Bad Writer Wrote: The logic fail is not mine, but yours, Chas. You wondered about the veracity of a claim due to the fact that it came from the mouth of a comedic political commentator. If a Christian tells you that 2+2=4, are you going to doubt them because of their religious background, or will you do the math on your own to check their work?

Now, if you want, you can explain whether or not the good doctor is wrong or right, and why it is that you think that. Until then, stop staggering the discussion by delving into semantics, nuances, and irrelevancies.

Commentary, regardless of source, is not even evidence, let alone proof.

My observation had absolutely nothing to do with the doctor or his opinion, but with Min's statement that the commentary was proof.

(March 26, 2014 at 7:10 am)KUSA Wrote:

(March 26, 2014 at 6:12 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Cool, I'll tell my aquaintance with the impressive collection of legally registered high power rifles and shotguns you said that.

I'm sure he'll be highly amused.

How many AR15s does he have?

You said we couldn't own anything better than a single shot .22
When I prove you wrong don't try to move the goalposts please.

(March 26, 2014 at 7:50 am)Zen Badger Wrote:

(March 26, 2014 at 7:10 am)KUSA Wrote: How many AR15s does he have?

You said we couldn't own anything better than a single shot .22
When I prove you wrong don't try to move the goalposts please.

I didn't move the goalpost. I said you can't own anything worth a fuck. I gave an example of a single shot 22 but didn't limit it to that.

So what does he have that's worth a fuck and how many ARs does he have?

So AR15 s are the only weapons to have hey?

Well, he doesn't have one of those to my knowledge but the one one I do recall in detail was a Ruger .77 magnum that could put a round through a railway tie plate.
I'm not sufficiently knowledgable in weaponry to tell you what the others are.

But assault weapons are banned here as they should be. And i see no practical reason for them to be in private hands.

AR15's are fun as hell to shoot though

(March 26, 2014 at 8:29 am)No_God Wrote: AR15's are fun as hell to shoot though

Indeed they would be,but I said practical reasons.