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What the hell am I? (Gnostic Atheist or Agnostic)
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RE: What the hell am I? (Gnostic Atheist or Agnostic)
April 27, 2010 at 5:07 pm (This post was last modified: April 27, 2010 at 5:07 pm by Minimalist.)
You concocted the "Great Consciousness." I was just wondering why you bothered?

As noted above, the universe exists. So what?


And, no. I have no patience for meditation or any of that new-age touchy-feely shit.
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RE: What the hell am I? (Gnostic Atheist or Agnostic)
April 28, 2010 at 12:30 am
People get really crazy when it comes to labels, fitting in ideologies somewhere. If I were to label myself, I would probably be closer to militant athiest than anything, but even then, i'm also a humanist, so i'm not clearly defined by any one label, people who really are freethinkers tend not to be.
"In our youth, we lacked the maturity, the decency to create gods better than ourselves so that we might have something to aspire to. Instead we are left with a host of deities who were violent, narcissistic, vengeful bullies who reflected our own values. Our gods could have been anything we could imagine, and all we were capable of manifesting were gods who shared the worst of our natures."-Me

"Atheism leaves a man to sense, to philosophy, to natural piety, to laws, to reputation; all of which may be guides to an outward moral virtue, even if religion vanished; but religious superstition dismounts all these and erects an absolute monarchy in the minds of men." – Francis Bacon
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RE: What the hell am I? (Gnostic Atheist or Agnostic)
April 28, 2010 at 3:15 pm
(April 27, 2010 at 12:01 am)ghostlighter Wrote: Look,

I don't believe in God, the being. I KNOW that there is NO god of any sort.

To claim to know that, you are gnostic.

I also wonder how you can possibily know that.

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RE: What the hell am I? (Gnostic Atheist or Agnostic)
April 30, 2010 at 7:11 am
(April 27, 2010 at 5:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You concocted the "Great Consciousness." I was just wondering why you bothered?

I don't think the OP mentioned "consciousness," or even "alive." Sounded more like "the force" from star wars.

So what is it OP? Are we talking about "the force," or is it something alive, like a cosmic amoeba that poops universes, or is this "ultimate reality" sentient?
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RE: What the hell am I? (Gnostic Atheist or Agnostic)
May 1, 2010 at 3:45 pm
(April 27, 2010 at 5:26 am)ghostlighter Wrote: WOW. What a universe! There is something inspiring about that. Why do I believe in an "ultimate" or DEEPER reality? Because I am amazed at our amazing universe. I'm not saying it was "created" by "god" or any such bullshit. I'm just saying, "wow". This universe is so amazing, who knows WHAT is behind it.

I've got a slightly different outlook:

I too say "wow" when I contemplate the amazing universe, but the wow-factor kicks-in without me having to consider a "deeper reality". I am not going to say that I don't know how the universe works and then immediately contradict myself by saying that therefore I do know the universe is governed by an "ultimate reality". In fact I think my sense of wonder is heightened by the realisation that I don't know what is going on behind the scenes.
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RE: What the hell am I? (Gnostic Atheist or Agnostic)
July 22, 2010 at 6:20 am
Although you made it clear that you don't believe in a God but you do believe in a great "conciousness" beyong everything, I am struggling to see the difference. Could you please clarify?
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RE: What the hell am I? (Gnostic Atheist or Agnostic)
July 22, 2010 at 11:24 am
Super Cyn-
He does not believe in a consciousness, the closest thing people have decided in the force, but I expect he doesn't think he can move stuff with his mind.

Ghostlighter-
perhaps you are just a spiritual atheist? oh, well, like other people have said it is not important to label yourself. You are a gnostic atheists and you aren't a religious Taoist. (they shove jade in people's orifices when they die in the hopes that the breath won't leave them and they will live again. But I could be wrong about that.) but philosophical Tao is well, not a religion. I happen to like the Tao myself.
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