(May 26, 2014 at 8:36 am)professor Wrote: You take the good with the bad. We all do it.

"For the joy set before Him (Jesus), He endured the cross...."
That joy is every person who chooses to be His eternal companion- His family.

Lucifer hates you so intently because you are intended to be his replacement, since he disqualified himself from his high position. Even though he was covered in jewels and was the Music Minister in Heaven, he CHOSE rebellion.
We, who have not seen and dwelt in glory unsurpassed (like Satan), yet believed and chose God's Redemption are destined to a higher place than him.

No God is not depressed.
He is the most joyful, delightful being in the universe who is awaiting the fruit of wisdom.

Whether you know it or not you just the described the king of Tyre as the Lucifer character.

(May 26, 2014 at 9:56 am)professor Wrote: Here is a thing most do not consider- Before the Fall of Lucifer, there was no evil.
He had never seen the Justice side of God.
Lucifer apparently thought God was a patsy, much as God is miss-represented right here.

It is not a co-incidence the Elete overwhelmingly believe Lucifer is the real God, and worship him as such.
It is a tenant of Freemasonry.

When you see the devil hand sign displayed by the "Movers and shakers" (index and little finger pointing while thumb and center fingers retracted- making 2 horned head) they are telling you who they are aligned with.
The Bushes, Clintons, the queen, high level politicians, rock stars, etc, I think one of the popes I saw, are all making a statement flashing this sign.
They are deceived and follow him for power, position and money, relinquishing their shot at Heaven.
One thing they are not is stupid. Their real character has been tested and so far - found wanting.
See, without a real TEST- there is no final score.
Sound familiar?

Such a vivid imagination.

(May 26, 2014 at 8:36 am)professor Wrote: He is the most joyful, delightful being in the universe...

I know that is the orthodox opinion, but I'm not so certain that Scripture supports that assertion. Jesus is God. Jesus suffered. Therefore God suffered. At least for a time, yes?

And Prof, I am also a Freemason and I can tell you for certain that it has nothing to do with Devil worship. We walk around in aprons, give secret handshakes and play cards when we're done.

(May 28, 2014 at 7:29 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: And Prof, I am also a Freemason and I can tell you for certain that it has nothing to do with Devil worship. We walk around in aprons, give secret handshakes and play cards when we're done.

Sorry Chad, The professor cannot be wrong. You have been outed as a servant of Lucifer, so just admit it and describe those tasty roasted baby recipes that the freemasons keep so secret.

Wyrd, the description I gave of Lucifer largely came from that passage. Seeing that, it is not surprising so many music and rock stars have placed their allegiance in the inspirer of a selection of their songs.

Chad, as I said in a related post, Masonry is constructed as concentric circles.
The outer degrees have no clue what goes on in the center.
For the outer degrees, Freemasonry is a fraternal organization.
A purposeful ploy.

Albert Pike wrote the Masonic handbook, "Morals and Dogma".
Mr. Pike stated the god they worship is Lucifer.
The highest degree is 33.
Why?
I say, it is because 33 represents the one third of angels that fell to follow Lucifer.

What is a Masonic Temple? Isn't a temple a place of worship of a god?
Why does a Masonic building have an altar?
Altars have to do with a religious ceremony.
Like all secret societies- only "Adepts" learn the reality of the purpose of the group.
To achieve high levels in Masonry you are required to pronounce curses upon yourself.
A task directly counter to the teachings of the bible.

(May 25, 2014 at 9:45 pm)professor Wrote: When his appointment date rolls around, the only failure will be on our part.

That same appointment date you faithers have been waiting almost 2000 years for? The one that was so imminent that jebus claimed that some of the people he was speaking to would not fucking die before it happened?!?

Unless you're a professor of bullshit, you really should change your moniker.

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(May 26, 2014 at 9:56 am)professor Wrote: Here is a thing most do not consider- Before the Fall of Lucifer, there was no evil.

Well then, by creating Lucifer, your gawd created evil and he did it intentionally.

Now, before you start twisting and spinning, let me remind you that, according to the christer claims, your gawd is all knowing as well as all powerful. So, knowing that Lucifer would rebel and become evil, your gawd still chose to create him. You don't even have the old "free will" bullshit to help you opt your gawd out of this one because unlike the poor lowly humans, Lucifer was directly created by your gawd. What kind of retarded fuck-monkey would do something that incredibly stupid?!?

(May 28, 2014 at 9:32 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:

(May 25, 2014 at 9:45 pm)professor Wrote: When his appointment date rolls around, the only failure will be on our part.

That same appointment date you faithers have been waiting almost 2000 years for? The one that was so imminent that jebus claimed that some of the people he was speaking to would not fucking die before it happened?!?

Unless you're a professor of bullshit, you really should change your moniker.

Wrong. This is the exact quote.

Matthew 16:28
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

In case you haven't figured it out, he was speaking of John. You know, the guy that wrote the book of Revelation?

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Let's put it in context shall we?

16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

According to your own holy book, the "son of man" being referenced is also the son of gawd, not John. Or, are you claiming that John will "reward every man according to his works."

Sorry to disrupt your cherry picking.

(May 28, 2014 at 10:37 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: Let's put it in context shall we?

16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

According to your own holy book, the "son of man" being referenced is also the son of gawd, not John. Or, are you claiming that John will "reward every man according to his works."

Sorry to disrupt your cherry picking.

Apparently you're confused. You realize that the "Son of man" is the one speaking right?
So when he says "There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." He is speaking of John.

(May 28, 2014 at 10:53 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(May 28, 2014 at 10:37 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: Let's put it in context shall we?

16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

According to your own holy book, the "son of man" being referenced is also the son of gawd, not John. Or, are you claiming that John will "reward every man according to his works."

Sorry to disrupt your cherry picking.

Apparently you're confused. You realize that the "Son of man" is the one speaking right?
So when he says "There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." He is speaking of John.

Quote:Theodore Robinson
"..it is clear that for some reason or other the first generation of Christians did expect his speedy return, and if this impression was not based on his own language, whence could it have come?" (The Gospel of Matthew, p. 195).

Quote: C.H. Spurgeon
"If a child were to read this passage I know what he would think it meant: he would suppose Jesus Christ was to come, and there were some standing there who should not taste death until really and literally he did come. This, I believe, is the plain meaning." ("An Awful Premonition" in 12 Sermons on the Second Coming of Christ - Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Book House, 1976, 5)

Quote:Milton Terry
"All sorts of efforts have been made to evade the simple meaning of these words, but they all spring from the dogmatic prepossession that the coming of the Son of man in his glory must needs be an event far future from the time when the words were spoken." (Apocalyptics pp.213-252)

No one agrees with your apologetic twisting.