(June 20, 2014 at 7:32 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: It is clear. .

And if you punish [an enemy]
punish with an equivalent of that with which you were harmed
But if you are patient
it is better for those who are patient

Yeh, really fucking clear isn't it? You don't think there maybe just a slight chance that subjectiveness could alter your actions if you take that scripture as word of god?

(June 20, 2014 at 7:32 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Boko already is out of this issue,

Pretending Boko Haram doesn't exist won't make them go away. They have their right of interpretation of Islam as much as you. You are just as much a part of the problem as they are.

(June 20, 2014 at 8:48 am)TubbyTubby Wrote: Yeh, really fucking clear isn't it? You don't think there maybe just a slight chance that subjectiveness could alter your actions if you take that scripture as word of god?

Pretending Boko Haram doesn't exist won't make them go away. They have their right of interpretation of Islam as much as you. You are just as much a part of the problem as they are.

Yeah, as usual . .that is your only "product", ie. you ignore the issue, deny, fallacy, getting angry, criticizing religion as if you are perfect and maybe point out some lies here and there. That is your only "product". I believe it is a religion of hypocrisy, and you are so afraid of making any contentions. Maybe you try to associate yourself with Buddhist etc, but ohhh no no no. . I have many Buddhist friends and they are very ethical, many are better than Muslim. They are the true atheist, and they are very ethical and respect people's religions and traditions. Even the Hinduist are very ethical. In fact, all true religious people are very ethical. When people asked them about their religion, they bring out the facts, and don't say "I deny, I deny, I deny" or need to rely on the ideology of criticizing other religions as their religion. They have "original products" and do not live in hypocrisy.

By the way, I still don't get your point.

1. You avoid the missing premise. (refer here, no answer, no answer)
2. You cannot prove that it is the ideology of Islam from the Quran
3. You cannot prove that it is the ideology of Islam from the Muslim Ummah
4. You cannot prove the Muslim Ummah support Boko Haram
5. All Muslim condemn Boko Haram, in fact, if he is in our country, we'll hunt him down. That is normal.

Fatwa
Muslim Organizations Condemn Boko Haram
UAE religious and social leaders condemn Boko Haram’s actions
Saudi Grand Mufti condemns Boko Haram over girl kidnapping
Fatwa over Boko Haram
Saudi Arabia’s top cleric says Nigeria’s Boko Haram smears Islam
Cleric issues fatwa on Boko Haram
Ulama To Declare Fatwa on Boko Haram
Violence in the name of Islam is haram: fatwa
Al-Azhar demands Boko Haram release kidnapped girls
Boko Haram Are Not Muslims but the Enemy of All Muslims
and many more, try google.

OR you mean this one?

Boko Haram 'created and funded by CIA'
Boko Haram Is A CIA Covert Operation – Wikileaks
google





So. what is you trying to prove ? Try make you point from facts and common sense. If you cannot, then at least, be good people.

I can't continue with this, I honestly have no connection with you at all. You are insane/deluded.

(June 21, 2014 at 12:39 am)TubbyTubby Wrote: I can't continue with this, I honestly have no connection with you at all. You are insane/deluded.

Proven. . .

(June 20, 2014 at 1:02 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: that is your only "product", ie. you ignore the issue, deny, fallacy, getting angry

I don't understand this thread, is the point of it that atheism is actually indistinguishable from Islam, just as long as you are careful not to call Allah a god or Islam a religion? And we should all become "true Muslims"?

I'm honestly confused.

(June 21, 2014 at 4:35 am)jesus_wept Wrote: I don't understand this thread, is the point of it that atheism is indistinguishable from Islam as long as you are careful not to call Allah a god or Islam a religion? And we should all become "true Muslims"?

I'm honestly confused.

Don't worry. Not even Muslim Atheism knows what he's talking about.

Believers (this means Hypocrites)!! Don't mislead people

This thread about "Believers", and maybe you are hypocrites and not the real atheist
You claim not to believe in God and religion but you speak about gods and religions 24/7. . more than those from the religious people
Is this hypocrisy or not ?

Try look at Buddhist or Buddhism . . they are the real atheist, they are the "Believers".

(June 19, 2014 at 4:51 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: I every religion or group of people, there are people who are the "True Believers", and they are the "Hypocrites". It is not merely in Islam.

The "True Believers" are those who are focused on similarities and unity within diversity. They are the "Peacemakers", and respect all religions, because they respect humanity and justice.

The "Hypocrites" are those who are focused on differences and creating more division in the society, they are promoting wars, and hates within the society. They are the "Corrupters", and do not respect religions, system of life and peoples' traditions. They do not respect humanity and justice.

Atheism is only becoming a true non religious group when they respect peoples' traditions and able to give unconditional freedom of religion and traditions. Otherwise, it is sectarianism, and it is a religion. The ideology of "I am right, they are all wrong". It is bigotism.

You are a fucking idiot, the reason we talk about Islam AND CHRISTIANITY AND JEWISH, SHIITE AND SUNNI AND BAPTIST AND MORMON AND SCIENTOLOGY AND BUDDHISM,

YOU FUCKING NITWIT, is because the world's religions have an influence on global politics. Guess who has nukes? Islamic states, Israel and Christians in the west. Guess who is using our planet for a game of "my sky daddy can beat up your sky daddy"? ALL OF YOU YOU FUCKING IDIOT,

So pardon me for pointing out that your game of fictional sky heros is nothing more than a game of Dungeons and Dragons, problem is all you idiots care more about protecting your sky hero tribes that the fact that there are 7 billion of us all living on a planet none of us can get off of.

SO YEA I am going to talk about Islam AND CHRISTIANITY AND JEW AND MORMON AND BAPTIST AND and any fucking idiot who thinks they own the planet and bases it on a superstition.

See? Not a clue about what he's talking about.

Fascinating how his replies consistently employ faulty and fallacious reasoning. His brain has constructed a mental fortress of ignorance where he has warped reality to his own end.

Utterly fascinating.

(June 21, 2014 at 7:04 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: See? Not a clue about what he's talking about.

Fascinating how his replies consistently employ faulty and fallacious reasoning. His brain has constructed a mental fortress of ignorance where he has warped reality to his own end.

Utterly fascinating.

Not "fascinating" to me at all. More like a scarey part of the downside of human evolution, in that we are far to often flawed in our perceptions. This stupid question as to why we attack religion is a symptom of tribal narcissism. It is our species failure to see the long term, Sagan's Pale Blue dot.

We have no choice to criticize religion because it is our species most dangerous distraction. It isn't that you can get rid of it, but to allow it to shit all over the planet takes away from our species collective problem solving which we should be focused on. He is too fucking stupid to see that we are not playing favorites to any religious gang.

If this idiot would spend any length of time here he'd know we don't single out Islam.

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I even have atheists attack me for attacking religion and that is the other thing this idiot cannot see. "atheist" is not a religion or a loyalty oath.

These idiots also miss my point.

I try to tell them I love Malala, who is a Muslim, but that does not make Allah a real god. I love Ann Frank but that does not mean the Hebrew god is a real god. I love Martin Luther King Jr, but that does not mean the god of Jesus is the one true god.

These atheists along with this self proclaimed "muslimatheist", are just as fucked up in their logic as any believer.

Humans worldwide have a huge problem, including some atheists, in separating human rights, which everyone should defend, and the separate issue of "ANY CLAIM THAT SOMEONE MIGHT UTTER ON ANY SUBJECT".

I don't give one fuck what you claim, you can claim you are a unicorn, but that does not actually make you a unicorn.