Do Christians really believe most of us are going to hell?
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Do Christians really believe most of us are going to hell?
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80% forged. You're doing OK.
I can't get one scrap of any historical truth to it at all which surprised me.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.  (June 30, 2014 at 11:06 pm)ignoramus Wrote: 80% forged. You're doing OK. Well I'm not a bible student, I am not really interested, even if the bible had considerable amount of evidence, the truth is the absence of any inductive evidence/proof for a god existing is enough for me to lack any belief in deities. Would you say it was 100% forged? I'm not really a bible expert, unlike a lot of atheist I'd say I didn't need to read the bible to not believe, my knowledge of such book is very thin, at most I know a few parts of both the OT and NT, but I do not know enough to criticize or say which parts are forged.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you
When you think about it, hell can be considered an unknown place where you will suffer all kinds of bad tortures. Looking back in history I'm sure that the black Africans who were loaded on strange ships in chains and spent weeks crossing the sea to strange lands far from home thought that they were going to hell. And when the Indians were forced into concentration camps they must have felt like they were in hell as well.
Most of the time you don't have to die to go to hell. You can experience it living right here on Earth. After that, why would anyone fear a hell after they're dead? 
@OP,
Only the cunts believe this way. 
Actually, I think that hell is much more comfortable than heaven temperature wise.
Given that most scientists are supposedly in "hell" I would imagine that it is air conditioned by now and that most musicians are now in this "hell" the music would be great!  So yeah, I would much rather go to this xtian mythical "hell" than go to the equally mythical xtian (read abrahamic religions - plural) heaven. Much prefer eternity with intelligent conversation, great music and solutions to problems than bum licking some supposed deity "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
 (July 1, 2014 at 8:40 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Actually, I think that hell is much more comfortable than heaven temperature wise. If you are announcing a new revelation there, you might attract some followers. What is the proselytization policy here at AF ??? 
 RE: Do Christians really believe most of us are going to hell?
July 1, 2014 at 7:46 pm
(This post was last modified: July 1, 2014 at 7:46 pm by Lek.)
I've been researching this for awhile and lean one direction, but I'm not totally sure because there's evidence in the bible for both views. These views have been shared by christians down through the centuries. One possibility is that people who die as unbelievers will go to hell for an appropriate time and will then be annihilated. Another view, which I lean to more, is that those people will go to hell for a time and will eventually come to faith in Christ and will spend eternity with God. The bible states that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. If most people don't end up being saved, that seems like wasted atonement to me. Although God can be loving by ending our misery, I think that universal reconciliation points to a loving God and it gives a correctional purpose to hell. I don't know if the majority of people will go to to hell or not, but it appears that way today. I just can't get into peoples heart's and minds. I can't know the nature of their relationship with God.
One looks like wasted atonement to you...and the other (hell) doesn't look like wasted effort?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
That's why it's wasted effort. What correction is required (and in what way would it be achieved)? Wasted atonement...why wouldn't there be wasted atonement, if there's so much wasted effort into this correctional/redemptive scheme in the first place? It needn't exist at all.
I respect your opinion, I don't think that I could personally argue in favor of hell, but meh.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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