I stopped reading after "As if, undesirable comment against this theory provoke discomfort among its followers." I have never met a follower of evolution. I didn't even know evolutionism was a religion. Learn something new everyday

(July 10, 2014 at 2:37 am)Losty Wrote: I stopped reading after "As if, undesirable comment against this theory provoke discomfort among its followers." I have never met a follower of evolution. I didn't even know evolutionism was a religion. Learn something new everyday

It's almost as if undesirable comments against this religion of [Christ/ Yahweh/ Allah/ Shiva/ Ra/ Zeus/ Thor/ etc.] provoke discomfort among its followers.

After reading it, I started feeling persecuted and unsure of my belief.
Can anybody recommend a "god" I can pray to?

Arceus should work as well as any other.

An evolutionary god? Hail Eris!

(July 9, 2014 at 5:30 pm)ignoramus Wrote: 2) That they don't need to prove "god" to us using science and logic.

I'm of the opinion that the very fact that a follower makes the attempt to prove his or her god (using evidence or reason] is prima facie evidence of a lack of faith.

I've spent the last week checking out a heap of YouTube full docos about evolution, physics, Dawkins, miracles, etc.
It isn't hard if you want to seek the truth.

Do these brainwashed idiots think that if I watch lots of creationist docos that I'm going to start believing in the bullshit.

Scientific knowledge is a one way street. If you actually allow yourself to understand the "real" world, it will open your mind's eye and most things become obvious. The problem is that religious people won't give it a chance.
Something inside them tells them not to because it is detrimental to their belief system.

Today, I got a link to a playlist of TED talks, the 20 most viewed, or something like that.
In one of them, there was a guy talking about motivating people to buy a product from some company and he outlined what he called the "golden circle": a 3 concentric circles bulls-eye.
At the center, he put "why", in the middle he put "what" and at the outermost layer, he put "how".
And he said that most companies work from the outside inwards.
But the truly great companies work from the inside out.

So, back to these creatards. If we want to captivate them, we have to make them understand "why" we think the way we think, "why" evolution is correct... only then can we say what evolution is and how it works.
"why", the motivation that makes everything else fall in place.

We've been going at this all wrong, probably due to the creatards' fault always starting the conversation on some "conceived" faults of evolution... we keep showing them "how" evolution works and a bit of "what" it is..... we never show them "why". Our inner reason to accept it.

So, "why" is evolution right? "why" should I consider evolution? (Remember, this is not a "how" nor "what" question!)

- Beats me if I can verbalize it!
Perhaps it's because we need of a way to catalog all life on this planet and make sense of why it is as it is, why we see animals and plants like what they are?
Why do we see very similar animals, but with slightly different features... features which seem very well suited to the particular environments in which these different animals inhabit...?
I'd say this is the first level of acceptance of evolution, as it can provide an answer to these questions... a tangible answer, one we can easily visualize, even if it requires some imagination into long stretches of time.... but not too long, so it seems plausible that, as sexual reproduction mechanisms produce offspring with slight variations of features over their parents, the accumulation of such variations would, in time, given enough generations, lead to some form of adaptation to a particular environment.

And I got stuck in the "how" answer... darn!
I leave this to someone better in tune with the question. Best of luck!

Tackles the evolution as faith claim among other things head-on.