I'm noting you seem to think it's either evolution or god. This is a false dichotomy. Evolution is a fact. It has nothing to do with the existence or non existence of god. Most Christians have no issue with evolution, in fact the Catholic Church, which I came from, endorses it. It was not evolution which caused me to become an atheist, or to leave the church.

Evolution is a fact. It is observable, testable, verifiable.

Both proponents for evolution and intelligent design use science to back up their faith in their own theories. Frankly, the people behind Ancient Aliens have more substance than what is passed as evolution these days.

Quote:This has been said countless times before on this forum, but Atheism is not the belief that there is no god, it is the lack of belief in a god.

And it never does seem to sink in with religious morons, does it?

Gods? Ancient Aliens?

Can we please keep it "real"!
For a moment I thought I stumbled into the sci-fi channel.

(July 27, 2014 at 5:36 pm)Polaris Wrote: Both proponents for evolution and intelligent design use science to back up their faith in their own theories. Frankly, the people behind Ancient Aliens have more substance than what is passed as evolution these days.

Wow! Most ignorant forum member here! Everybody crowd round while we school this idiot.

1) You got one thing right, evolution uses science. From that point on you are wrong about everything.
Intelligent design (as anybody with the smallest amount of skepticism and intellectual honesty knows) is simply a cover for creationism. What they do is not science. They do not apply the scientific method at all. They start with an assumption and then look for evidence for it and ignore the evidence against. The theory of evolution was made by observing nature and following the evidence to where it pointed. IT twists the evidence to get what it wants. Anyone who believes IT uses science is an ignorant dolt.

2) Ancient aliens has more evidence than evolution? Are you trying to be as ignorant as possible? If you hadn't been here so long I would think you were a troll. Have you ever actually looked for the evidence of evolution? Ever bothered researching it? Ever bothered to understand the theory that you don't believe?
Well, let me tell you about the evidence.

DNA: The DNA evidence alone would be enough to prove evolution. All species share some DNA, we can tell which species are closely related to each other and which aren't. We can trace back genetic bottlenecks of species. We can tell exactly how we evolved to be more intelligent than our ape ancestors. And you have the arrogance to say that there isn't any evidence?

Fossil record: We can track the evolution of species through fossils. A snapshot in time, these fossils show us how many species evolved to be how they are today. Like the horse and the even toad undulates. We know that they have evolved to be marine, then terrestrial, then marine, then back to terrestrial. We can accurately predict what fossils we are going to find at different depths.

Biology: The composition of many living species all show evolution. One of my favorites is the laryngeal nerve. Its sole purpose is to control the voice box. However, it stretches from the base of the brain, loops around your aorta and then goes all the way back up to the larynx. Why could this be? Oh wait, we know why that is! Because millions and millions of years ago, our ancestors were fish-like creatures. They had no neck, which meant that the larngeal nerve didn't need to travel far at all. But then as our ancestors evolved, their bodies got longer but the laryngeal nerve had to stretch to carry out its function. This is exactly the kind of thing we would expect if a species evolved slowly over millions of years. Other examples include the sloth bear, which has lost its front teeth and the rest are very small as it has evolved to eat termites and ants. The tiger and the lion are very similar creatures to the point that they can actually breed and produce offspring, because they are incredibly closley related and share a common ancestor.

Go educate yourself you fool.

Too much drivel, stopped reading. If I wanted less unscientific BS than that, I'd go to a dive bar.

Polecat's beliefs guide his judgement. It's a problem with people like that.

(July 27, 2014 at 7:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Polecat's beliefs guide his judgement. It's a problem with people like that.

The problem is people such as yourself who take things at face value without actually doing the research. I have a stronger backing in evolution than any of you. Like I know the flaws of the Bible (of which none of you have actually been able to mention), I also know the flaws concerning the assertions made to support evolution.

Sounds fascinating. I'd like to see some of them.

The issues with the bible play no part in the evolution issue. The facts of evolution would be true if the bible we're completely false, or if some of the stories were based in facts.