Are you angry simply because reading this thread ?

(July 30, 2014 at 10:37 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Are you angry simply because reading this thread ?

Not really. Irritated would be a better word. Irritated that you can't answer the simplest of questions without massive logic contortions and some of the most Chopra-esque word salads I've ever seen.

(July 30, 2014 at 10:37 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Are you angry simply because reading this thread ?

Nope. My mind is blown. Wow.

So, all gods are real? Cthulhu, Yahweh, Aphrodite, Zeus, Baal?

Aren't they all going to be pissed when they find out?

Okay, that's fine. . why ? You feel insecure ? and because you need people to confirm to your understanding in order to feel secure ?

We were discussing you, not me.

(July 30, 2014 at 10:40 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Okay, that's fine. . why ? Because you need people to confirm to your understanding ?

Because nobody here can understand a damn thing you're trying to say. I understand that English isn't your first language, but it makes it impossible to have a conversation with you when you throw down logic knots, word salads, non-sequitors, meaningless charts and graphs, and condecension to the level of saying that you're the only real atheist here and everyone else is too blinded to understand.

(July 30, 2014 at 10:30 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: What do you have to be free from personal fallacy or phenomenal self ? What is your system (compass) ? Desires ?

I accept instead that I am not free from personal fallacy. I am capable of making mistakes.
I take responsibility for my own mistakes and shortcomings.
I try to think of others before myself. That stops me being carried away by selfish desires. So I suppose that is my compass. I believe in love as a general principle and don't carry hate around as it is destructive and energy consuming.
In short you can just say that I play it by ear or "wing it". I have no plan or rule book and don't need one.

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MA, have you tried applying yourself to life without the rule book? How do you know it is better if all you have known is following the quran?

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(July 30, 2014 at 10:37 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Are you angry simply because reading this thread ?

I am not angry. I don't get angry at the internet. I like to discuss stuff

(July 30, 2014 at 10:42 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Because nobody here can understand a damn thing you're trying to say.

That's normal. . . we do have differences of understanding, and understanding comes with experiences and maturity etc. . it is the same with 7 years old kid cannot understand the syllabus in the university, but that doesn't make the syllabus in the university is wrong. . .

(July 30, 2014 at 11:02 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote:

(July 30, 2014 at 10:42 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Because nobody here can understand a damn thing you're trying to say.

That's normal. . . we do have differences of understanding, and understanding comes with experiences and maturity etc. . it is the same with 7 years old kid cannot understand the syllabus in the university, but that doesn't make the syllabus in the university is wrong. . .

And there you go again implying we're all just simply too dumb to understand your enlightened philosophy.

(July 30, 2014 at 10:44 am)vodkafan Wrote: I accept instead that I am not free from personal fallacy. I am capable of making mistakes.
I take responsibility for my own mistakes and shortcomings.

Me too. . but I don't live long to figure out everything and need shortcut. The Book is my shortcut. . . as equal to other Books, it is a shortcut. . .so that I don't have to experienced everything to find out the truth. That' how human develops.

(July 30, 2014 at 10:44 am)vodkafan Wrote: MA, have you tried applying yourself to life without the rule book? How do you know it is better if all you have known is following the quran?

By comparing it with nature and the overall system of life. . . the "signs". The truth must corroborate the overall system of life. The Quran and the overall system of life is a complete "Book".