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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
August 2, 2014 at 4:52 pm
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(August 2, 2014 at 3:21 pm)Polaris Wrote: (July 30, 2014 at 4:30 pm)Beccs Wrote: Faith doesn't require evidence.
Evolution has overwhelming supporting evidence.
Therefore, it's a science.
Next!
It also has overwhelming contrary evidence.
I'm assuming that you consider the contrary evidence so obvious that you neglected to present any of it in support of your assertion.
(August 2, 2014 at 1:11 pm)archangle Wrote: I can use science in religion or anywhere else. You can use faith in science too.
With the convenient exception of testing claims for your god.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
August 2, 2014 at 4:55 pm
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Hey come on, there's so much overwhelming contrary evidence, he doesn't know where to start... how can we be so unreasonable as to ask him do do all the work?
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
August 2, 2014 at 5:12 pm
(August 2, 2014 at 3:21 pm)Polaris Wrote: (July 30, 2014 at 4:30 pm)Beccs Wrote: Faith doesn't require evidence.
Evolution has overwhelming supporting evidence.
Therefore, it's a science.
Next!
It also has overwhelming contrary evidence.
Such as?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
August 2, 2014 at 7:44 pm
(August 2, 2014 at 4:52 pm)Cato Wrote: (August 2, 2014 at 3:21 pm)Polaris Wrote: It also has overwhelming contrary evidence.
I'm assuming that you consider the contrary evidence so obvious that you neglected to present any of it in support of your assertion.
(August 2, 2014 at 1:11 pm)archangle Wrote: I can use science in religion or anywhere else. You can use faith in science too.
With the convenient exception of testing claims for your god.
I already posted it on this thread and it was discussed for a couple pages on how scientists have made numerous mistakes on their claims for evolution, mistakes that are still believed to be true by the masses to this day.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
August 2, 2014 at 7:46 pm
Mistakes in claims for evolution, even if made by scientists in the field, are not contrary evidence in favour of ID/creationism or whatever you're selling.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
August 2, 2014 at 8:02 pm
(August 2, 2014 at 7:46 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Mistakes in claims for evolution, even if made by scientists in the field, are not contrary evidence in favour of ID/creationism or whatever you're selling.
I believe I already stated I believed in evolution....I just also know about the evidence that points in contrary to the claims that have been made as well.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
August 2, 2014 at 8:07 pm
Fair enough. The evidence can't be all that compelling, in that case.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
August 2, 2014 at 8:56 pm
(August 2, 2014 at 4:52 pm)Cato Wrote: (August 2, 2014 at 3:21 pm)Polaris Wrote: It also has overwhelming contrary evidence.
I'm assuming that you consider the contrary evidence so obvious that you neglected to present any of it in support of your assertion.
(August 2, 2014 at 1:11 pm)archangle Wrote: I can use science in religion or anywhere else. You can use faith in science too.
With the convenient exception of testing claims for your god.
nope. I have faith in my ability to read and understand data. If your god did it, it seems he did it through evolution.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
August 2, 2014 at 9:23 pm
(August 2, 2014 at 3:21 pm)Polaris Wrote: (July 30, 2014 at 4:30 pm)Beccs Wrote: Faith doesn't require evidence.
Evolution has overwhelming supporting evidence.
Therefore, it's a science.
Next!
It also has overwhelming contrary evidence.
Yeah I am with stimbo, like what, don't you go thinking I will dismantle what you say like I did with the OP.
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RE: Is Evolution a science or a faith?
August 2, 2014 at 9:26 pm
(August 2, 2014 at 7:44 pm)Polaris Wrote: I already posted it on this thread and it was discussed for a couple pages on how scientists have made numerous mistakes on their claims for evolution, mistakes that are still believed to be true by the masses to this day.
Here's the thing though: the masses aren't the indicator of the state of evolutionary theory. There is a lot of misinformation out there about evolution, some spread deliberately, some just your usual cultural noise, but I'm willing to bet that the people who discovered those mistakes were also scientists working in the field. And I doubt that those mistakes are known and accepted as such by mainstream science, and yet still published as factual.
But in a world in which we're still having to deal with "it's still a theory!" and "If people came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?!" we simply can't blame evolutionary theory for the amount of misinformation out there about it.
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