That is what whiskey is for. I could love a llama with enough Jim. Jack, Johnnie or Jameson

I can love on command provided I am told to love Angelina Jolie and there is a billion dollars in it for me.

I think whether it is conscious or subconscious, love is always based on some set of expectations deriving from assessment of the to be beloved. Whether love can be commanded depends on whether the command comes with credible promise of fulfillment of the right set of expectations.

What is harder to achieve is to successful command some one to relinquish a set of expectations with a deep cognitive or emotional resonance in favor another which appears vacuous or unattractive.

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(August 30, 2014 at 2:39 pm)Drich Wrote:

(August 30, 2014 at 2:36 pm)Diablo Wrote: Total garbage. Fear and respect are not love, they're fear and respect.

You do know your arguing with an ancient culture's vocabulary don't you? speaking a second language I would have thought you would know certain aspects of the host language is often lost in translation.

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Plus if you do not like my take on agape you can always stick with what wiki says about it that is why I left the link.

You are the moron who is trying to shoehorn concepts from ancient vocabulary into the modern word Love, dumfuck.

Are you trying to borrow the favorable tender connotations of the word love to disguise the domineering barbaric nature of your stupid Bronze Age cult?

If the translation that drich found is correct then yeh he's right that's the question explained.

If you're wondering why there's a commandment to give god love it's because it's a type of love described as an unconditional love.
It makes sense to me.
I don't thing the bible is using love in the modern, internet dating profile style of the word love.
God isn't commanding that you have an instant spark and good chemistry with him, or your neighbor.

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(August 30, 2014 at 2:56 pm)PhiloTech Wrote: That is what whiskey is for. I could love a llama with enough Jim. Jack, Johnnie or Jameson

The only way to calm a lama down is to love it.
Calm a llama down
Calm a llama deep down in the ocean,
Blue like a barnacle,
Sitting in a tight place,
Laughing like a monkey on,
Pulling like a china boy,

(August 30, 2014 at 2:39 pm)Drich Wrote:

(August 30, 2014 at 2:36 pm)Diablo Wrote: Total garbage. Fear and respect are not love, they're fear and respect.

You do know your arguing with an ancient culture's vocabulary don't you? speaking a second language I would have thought you would know certain aspects of the host language is often lost in translation.

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Plus if you do not like my take on agape you can always stick with what wiki says about it that is why I left the link.

My bold. That's just about right, it's got lost in translation, which is just about what I said.

This is true, that love cannot be commanded, but one who doesn't know love must start from somewhere. Its sort of like obeying the road rules, such as stopping at a red light, we lean that rule when we are just starting to drive a car, but what is more important than the rule is, that we don't go through a red light because we could kill someone or ourselves, this realization is above the law.

(August 30, 2014 at 2:33 pm)Drich Wrote: What you have failed to account for in the op. Is that for Christ the word love did not exist. Noe was their any one singular all encompassing word to describe all 'love.' No the Greeks had five different words that describe what we would considered different aspects of the word love. 4 are used in the bible

There was
Agape, or the type of love we are to have for God, which btw is the word Jesus was using in the passage you quoted. This for. Of love is based in fear and respect.

We are commanded to give God agape. This type of love is something we can indeed provide on demand.

How does one fear and respect what is not here except in the imaginations of people like you?

Fear is generated by man against what can harm him. Man cannot respect in the way you mean what can harm him. Hate is more like what we think of what can harm us.

Esoterically speaking, that is why God hated Esau even before he could do good or evil. He represented change and your God and church, as shown by the Inquisition and laws against reading the bible, --- show how Christians are just idol worshipers.

Regards
DL

(August 29, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: I was an atheist or non-believer at one time but I am now a Gnostic Christian.

Regards
DL

You keep calling yourself a gnostic Christian, but I think we must have very different definitions for that word.

(August 30, 2014 at 5:07 pm)psychoslice Wrote: This is true, that love cannot be commanded, but one who doesn't know love must start from somewhere. Its sort of like obeying the road rules, such as stopping at a red light, we lean that rule when we are just starting to drive a car, but what is more important than the rule is, that we don't go through a red light because we could kill someone or ourselves, this realization is above the law.

I would just say that it is a law that one has taken and written in our hearts.

I don't think I would say that that is above the law but I think we are on the same page and have no need to discuss the semantics of language.

We agree that the spirit of the law should be taught as well as the letter of it.

Regards
DL

some buddhists who have practised meditation for a lifetime can generate intense compassion on command

to the point where their frontal lobe lights up so big on an eeg that it leads some scietists to conclude they may be the happiest people on earth

(August 31, 2014 at 12:17 pm)Losty Wrote:

(August 29, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: I was an atheist or non-believer at one time but I am now a Gnostic Christian.

Regards
DL

You keep calling yourself a gnostic Christian, but I think we must have very different definitions for that word.

I would have to know your definition but this link show my basic beliefs, but as an emerging religion, I am still trying to define it as Christianity destroyed much of their scriptures and there was also a lot of different sects.

http://www.thesongofgod.com/tgc/basic_beliefs.html

Regards
DL

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(August 31, 2014 at 12:20 pm)naimless Wrote: some buddhists who have practised meditation for a lifetime can generate intense compassion on command

to the point where their frontal lobe lights up so big on an eeg that it leads some scietists to conclude they may be the happiest people on earth

Indeed. Much of what Jesus actually taught fit's better to Eastern thinking and the Western church does not teach it.

They highlight obedience while the Eats go for enlightenment.

They want people who can stand proud and alone while Christianity wants humble people on their knees just doing what they are told to do without thought.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

I became a brethren to Jesus a while back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesf...r_embedded

When you can call your God I am and mean you, then you will begin to know the only God you can ever know. That is Gnosis.

Regards
DL