They're not taking away your right to not believe by offering shelter for church attendence.

(September 7, 2014 at 1:51 am)Mothonis_Cathicgal Wrote:

(September 7, 2014 at 1:45 am)Chuck Wrote: No, it means creating the opportunity to overthrown the tyrant, that is done by judiciously picking and winning your battles, not by mindlessly standing your ground in pointless fights.

No my right to not believe in god is anything but a meaningless fight, stand your ground is the only thing these morons understand.

You can definitely try to do this, but you have more important things to worry about than becoming mentally uncomfortable with your situation, like exposure and death. I helped a homeless man get an interview as a groundskeeper in my building and he said that even though like me he doesn't believe in God (he doesn't really know what to believe) he's not going to turn down a kind offer just because it's from a church.

what up with the back and forth arguing.
I don't believe the state has any legal obligation to provide for the homeless. You don't have to believe in god to go to church. You don't have to pretend to be Christian to go to bible study. But you do have to go to church and bible study to gain admittance to this shelter. Sad, but true.
I think it's best to do what you've go to do in order to have a better chance of getting back on your feet sooner.

(September 7, 2014 at 1:52 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: They're not taking away your right to not believe by offering shelter for church attendence.

Really? so if they they're the ones needing shelter znd where denied because they wouldn't attend atheist services they would say they're rights are being trampled,

(September 7, 2014 at 2:00 am)Mothonis_Cathicgal Wrote:

(September 7, 2014 at 1:52 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: They're not taking away your right to not believe by offering shelter for church attendence.

Really? so if they they're the ones needing shelter znd where denied because they wouldn't attend atheist services they would say they're rights are being trampled,

But that's not really as important at the moment as having a place to live, right? So, suck it up, go to church, and let THEM know how you feel about it. Maybe some of them will even side with you.

(September 7, 2014 at 1:59 am)Losty Wrote: what up with the back and forth arguing.
I don't believe the state has any legal obligation to provide for the homeless. You don't have to believe in god to go to church. You don't have to pretend to be Christian to go to bible study. But you do have to go to church and bible study to gain admittance to this shelter. Sad, but true.
I think it's best to do what you've go to do in order to have a better chance of getting back on your feet sooner.

By that logic they wouldn't have any obligations to give food stamps or cash assistance or anyother programs for people in need, where do we draw the line

(September 7, 2014 at 2:06 am)Mothonis_Cathicgal Wrote:

(September 7, 2014 at 1:59 am)Losty Wrote: what up with the back and forth arguing.
I don't believe the state has any legal obligation to provide for the homeless. You don't have to believe in god to go to church. You don't have to pretend to be Christian to go to bible study. But you do have to go to church and bible study to gain admittance to this shelter. Sad, but true.
I think it's best to do what you've go to do in order to have a better chance of getting back on your feet sooner.

By that logic they wouldn't have any obligations to give food stamps or cash assistance or anyother programs for people in need, where do we draw the line

By what logic? The logic is that they are legally obligated to provide food stamps and cash assistance to those who qualify. They are not obligated to provide shelter. Not legally. My only logic is...that those are the actually legalities.
Depending on your state, you can apply for income based housing. Most states have a long waiting list. I have never seen a shelter run by the state. Most likely it is run by the church. Their shelter, their rules. Ya know?

Well done! Go without a bad and food and plumbing and shelter - that'll show 'em!

Eedjit.

Boru

(September 7, 2014 at 2:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well done! Go without a bad and food and plumbing and shelter - that'll show 'em!

Eedjit.

Boru

it will show them they can't just shove a bible down peoples throats.i still got stamps.your only feeding the belief that atheists don't have convictions and will obey when threatened if you dont stand up to them..

(September 7, 2014 at 2:18 am)Mothonis_Cathicgal Wrote:

(September 7, 2014 at 2:10 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well done! Go without a bad and food and plumbing and shelter - that'll show 'em!

Eedjit.

Boru

it will show them they can't just shove a bible down peoples throats.i still got stamps.your only feeding the belief that atheists don't have convictions and will obey when threatened if you dont stand up to them..

But no one's threatened you, mate. You aren't 'standing up' to anyone. You're in a bad situation and are pig-headedly refusing the available help. *shrug* Your business.

Boru