(September 15, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The trashbag ruins it for me. Then again, she might be hideous. She'd have to be pretty damned hideous to sour that body though......

Like that "Curb Your Enthusiasm" episode - the face covering was def required.

In this case though...something quite hot about a sexy chick leading around Mohamed(?) on a leash. Woof!

I'm sure Mohamed was a very very naughty boy.

(September 15, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Celestine Wrote: I never said they were defensive wars, nor did I claim they were. Why do I care if they were or were not?

You made a point that the Qu'ran instructs Muslims to fight in defense, and leave off when their attackers have subsided. It wasn't that long ago that you said this.

(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: All wars there are people being conquered, murdered, oppressed, and enslaved, the problem is that you're only associating it with Islam. Or at least making it seem as such from I can understand.

You misunderstand. There have been plenty of wars (a surplus, I'd say), many very secular (I've got an army that I think can beat their army, and I want their land and stuff), some very religious, and many where religion is used as a tool to recruit soldiers and justify war. Muslims aren't unique, but the Christians have mostly agreed to leave off killing each other over religion and let their government be (mostly) secular. Islam is still being used in this way, which makes it stand out in the modern world as a tool to promote war. I'm not under the impression that we wouldn't be having a lot of trouble in the Middle East today if Mohammed had never been born and the Middle East was dominated by Orthodox Christianity. Or that it wouldn't be Orthodox Christianity being used to justify violence if that were the case. The Middle East is chock full of problems with a tendency to lead to violence.

(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: This is happening even today with modern empire building. A simple class in Greek History could relate to you the astonishing similarities between the Athenian Empire and the Euro-American Empire.

We just go about it in a funny way these days, by not conquering new territory.

(September 15, 2014 at 5:52 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: I'm sure Mohamed was a very very naughty boy.

If he wasn't down for that I would be. Pretty sure that little girls were his kink though.....she looks a bit dated. Not by much, but enough.

(September 15, 2014 at 5:36 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: From the title of this thread, I had high hopes of entertainment.

I have not been disappointed.

Now, all that is left is for the OP to confess to being a Muslim apologist and I'll shall be at peace before my gym time.

Confess! CONFESS!! It really is rather obvious.

Just because he's sympathetic to Muslims doesn't make him a Muslim. I'm sympathetic to Muslims. I just can't stand Islamists.

Quote:Just because he's sympathetic to Muslims doesn't make him a Muslim. I'm sympathetic to Muslims. I just can't stand Islamists.

Outstandingly good point. I've known quite a few Muslims over the years, and they seem no more likely to be pricks than anyone else. In this, they're a lot like Christians, Buddhists, Jews, atheists, etc.

Boru

(September 15, 2014 at 6:42 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:Just because he's sympathetic to Muslims doesn't make him a Muslim. I'm sympathetic to Muslims. I just can't stand Islamists.

Outstandingly good point. I've known quite a few Muslims over the years, and they seem no more likely to be pricks than anyone else. In this, they're a lot like Christians, Buddhists, Jews, atheists, etc.

Exactly. Our impression is colored by images of Kalashnikov-waving extremists in the media - but let's not forget that the Muslims we *don't* see on the 6 o'clock news.

@OP,
Fuck religion. Fuck in the ass those that claim people who commit undesirable acts in the name of their religion aren't really representatives of their religion. Fuck in the ear those that ask me to consider any religion's sense of morality while ignoring the broader ethical conversation that's been going on longer than your religion has existed. Fuck in the nostril those that don't get the fact that their religion is impractical; meaning it is impotent at preventing what all of us would consider unethical.

There is no religion of peace. None. Religion by its very nature is exclusionary and combative.

Unfortunately the liberal reformers get called infidels and then t...

RIP

Quote:I don't ever remember reading anywhere Jesus telling to kill the unbelievers

Luke 19:27 'But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.'

And to the rest of your posts blah blah blah education blah blah blah love each other blah blah blah yoghurt-covered pretzels....

Boru