(September 20, 2014 at 5:17 pm)professor Wrote: Stimbo, you really are funny, I do mean this is a compliment.

Thank you. No cash; just kudos and/or rep.

(September 20, 2014 at 5:17 pm)professor Wrote: Whenever it comes, the rapture will be a bang heard around the world.

Certainty gone, eh? That's economics for you. Prophet and loss.

Can anyone whose maths is not shit work out how long a bang would take to propogate around the world, and how loud it would have to be at source? I'm guessing quite a while, and a bit on the noisy side.

(September 20, 2014 at 5:17 pm)professor Wrote: It is not the end of the world (which never happens anyway).

Well, not for another 5,000,000,000 years anyway. Barring collisions, accident, Vogons etc.

(September 20, 2014 at 5:17 pm)professor Wrote: Hey, you don't need to do anything.

Well, that's handy.

(September 20, 2014 at 5:17 pm)professor Wrote: I am just saying a trap is coming.

You can say you're a radioactive mushroom, if you like. Making claims isn't half so important as validating them. That's unless you don't care about reality, or being taken seriously, of course.

A trap heh? Sure, why not?
I will kudos admiral akbar memes

(September 20, 2014 at 5:17 pm)professor Wrote: Brakeman, the guy you will see seemingly raised from the dead will be the AC ..

I didn't say anything about the anti-christ!! You are dishonestly dodging the question.

Why is your prayer power so completely powerless??
Why can't YOU raise someone from the dead with your faith & power in christ?

Why should we take your words as anything but the rantings of a crazy man if you can't even show the evidence that you are a true christian?

(September 20, 2014 at 6:40 pm)LastPoet Wrote: A trap heh? Sure, why not?
I will kudos admiral akbar memes

I can go one better:

Beam me up Scotty

(September 20, 2014 at 6:35 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(September 20, 2014 at 5:17 pm)professor Wrote: Whenever it comes, the rapture will be a bang heard around the world.

Certainty gone, eh? That's economics for you. Prophet and loss.

Can anyone whose maths is not shit work out how long a bang would take to propagate around the world, and how loud it would have to be at source? I'm guessing quite a while, and a bit on the noisy side.

Sound travels at about 342 m/s.
Earth's diameter is about 12,742,000 m... this results in a circumference of (2.pi.r = ) about 40,030,173 m.
So, a bang would take some 40,030,173 m / 342 m/s = 117,047 seconds
Each hour has 3600 seconds, so that's about 32 hours.
If it travels in both directions (East and West), then we should halve this value. It takes 16 hours to reach the other side of the planet.

How loud must it be?...
Let's say, for simplicity's sake, that sound's power falls with the square of the distance traveled. P(r ) = P_0/r^2, like all homogeneous propagation.
The perceived sound intensity, measured in dB, is then given by D(r ) = 10 Log(P(r )/P_min), where P_min is the minimum power a sound wave must have for a human to hear it.
Half a world away, r = 20,015,086.5m.
I_0 is assumed to be 10^-12 w/m^2.
Also, the minimum sound a human can hear is graded at 0dB, so we expect 0dB at the other side of the globe.
So... let's put it all together, shall we?

P(r=20M) = P(r=0)/20M^2
10^-12 * 20M^2 = P(r=0)
P(r=0) = 10^-12 * 4 * 10^20 = 4*10^8 W/m^2

D(r=0) = 10 Log(P(r=0)/10^-12)
D(r=0) = 10 Log(4*10^8/10^-12)
D(r=0) = 10 Log(4*10^20) = 206dB

Doesn't look like much, does it? But has anyone ever been there for a 200dB blast?

What if I told you you feel pain at 130dB?
And what if I told you that immediate hearing damage occurs at 140dB?

How much must sound travel before it falls to 140dB?

D(r ) = 140dB = 10 Log (P(r )/10^-12)
e ^(14) = P(r )/10^-12
P(r ) = e^14 * 10^-12 = 1.2*10^-6 W/m^2

Which 'r' is required to get there?
P(r ) = P(r=0)/r^2
1.2*10^-6 = 4*10^8/r^2
r^2 = 4*10^8/(1.2*10^-6)
r = sqrt(4*10^8/(1.2*10^-6))
r = 18,257,418 m

All humans on 90% of the planet will go deaf.

That's what I call a Big Bang!

That's what she said.

Pocaracas....you smarty pants. :-)

Jesus faw down an' go boom, eh? Nice work.

No wonder sceptical Scotty is sceptical.

Pocaracas, THAT was impressive. Bravo.
The only thing is the sound will not come from a central location but rather from all the inhabited lands of the earth.

Brakeman, good question and an honest one.
We do what we can believe for.
I have gotten some results. Others have done better.

The wonder is anyone gets any result at all because of the fog of unbelief we live in.

Jesus Himself said to the religious leaders of His time,
"You make the Word of God to no effect BY your traditions".
We are wallowing in them.
It takes concentrated effort to escape them.
Even then, we often fail.
When someone is raised from the dead or some other miracle is gotten, it gets the same general reaction as posting the event here on AF.

My post on this topic would be grounds for discipline within most church groups.
I do know this- when the enemy comes in, like a flood the Lord will raise a standard against him. It won't be all devil in the wrap-up.