Was Jesus a God or a man?

Hard mode: was Jesus real?

Jesus = Miserably failed psycho-sociological construct.

I dunno man, I have a buddy named Jesus and he makes a mean enchilada.

Jebus died to stop religion? For fucking real?

Well we can just add that to the vast list of his failures. It probably won't even stand out as being particularily stupid.

(September 22, 2014 at 12:36 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I dunno man, I have a buddy named Jesus and he makes a mean enchilada.

Perhaps, but his philosophies are all foreign to me.

To revise and expand an earlier idea, perhaps Jesus exists (existed) in a superposition of states:

God

Man

Null


So, depending on when and how the measurement occurred, you could get any of the possibilities noted.

It would even be possible for Jesus to be given a choice of apertures to pass through, and we would be unable to discern which aperture through which he passed and in which specific quantum state he did so.

And of course, without actually taking the measurement, Jesus would be oscillating through all the possible values continuously.



I'm thinking the spectrum of possible Jesus values may have been inadvertently interpreted by early Christian writers and scribes as a, no, THE manifestation of the Holy Ghost.

So, we can conclude that while Jesus is usually in an indeterminate form, the Holy Ghost is actually nonexistent, and all who believe they are Trinitarians, are actually Duotarians.


(count me dumbstruck spellcheck passed 'Duotarian' as correct. Fuck me in the ass!!)

(September 22, 2014 at 12:22 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I am a Christian I agree Jesus died to save us from religion, when we become so concerned about rules that we forget to think about God. Secondly I disagree with you on every thing you said apart from that. I believe Jesus was God born into man. I also believe that there was a resurrection because without it the whole believe of Jesus would be pointless. I also believe that resurrection is love as Jesus died on the cross for or sins so we don't need to be punished for them.

I also believe God is a God of love and wrath. My reason for this being that you can one day be loving and the next angry it doesn't mean you have become inaccurate and contradictory.

We don't care. Belief is not evidence, nor "I believe" an argument.

And a further concept: would an anti-Jesus exhibit similar characteristics, or would we be in a universe completely filled with energy, as eventually the Jesus and anti-Jesus would coincide in opposite states, and since they would be unbound in physical space, they would annihilate, and destroy each other, and the rest of creation ??

Chuck, I was stating my beliefs not facts.

(September 22, 2014 at 11:31 am)Rhythm Wrote: I'll take the third option - that jesus simply wasn't. As such he didn't die to save us from sin -or- religion, and should we desire salvation from either (in however stretched a form you take either concept) - no hero is required. I would actually propose that such a hero would interfere with that salvation, not facilitate or accomplish it.

So you would like to live under Moses's Laws? I understand. Yes eye for an eye is much better than Love thy neighbors. Gotcha.