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Was Jesus a God or a man?
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RE: Was Jesus a God or a man?
September 22, 2014 at 3:28 pm
(This post was last modified: September 22, 2014 at 3:31 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 22, 2014 at 2:02 pm)Rogue Wrote: So you would like to live under Moses's Laws? I understand. Yes eye for an eye is much better than Love thy neighbors. Gotcha.Um...no? I couldn't anyway- butterfly shrimp, pulled pork, and deer jerky hold more sway over than me than the ramblings of lunatics. By the way, tell a redneck bible thumper that deer are ritually unclean - so sayeth the good book...while you're in a treestand with him at 0-dark thirty. Talk about an adrenaline rush - fuckers got the gun in his hands...nobodies around.....and the look you get makes it clear that he is also keenly aware of this. One the balance of the two things offered, I really don;t see any wisdom inherent in either proclamation. An eye for an eye would seem to be an appropriate military response, but perhaps not the best way to handle civil law, and loving thy neighbor is all fine and dandy...unless you lived next door to Pol Pot or somesuch...at which point, meh - you know?
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OP, Jesus was neither, Jesus is a myth.
I am spiritual not religious. You need to understand this perspective if you want to judge me.
Don't treat me like a Christian because I'm not one. It will be a weakness on your part if you can not grasp that fact. I don't believe the bible is a god's work. I don't believe religion is a god's work. Atheist and theist alike proclaim a knowledge they can not possess, [ABSOLUTE] knowledge! I would never be so bold.
Belief in a Cruel God makes a Crueler Man. Thomas Paine with minor edit crueler instead of cruel.
 RE: Was Jesus a God or a man?
September 22, 2014 at 4:29 pm
(This post was last modified: September 22, 2014 at 4:31 pm by ShaMan.)
(September 22, 2014 at 4:24 pm)Rogue Wrote: Atheist and theist alike proclaim a knowledge they can not possess, [ABSOLUTE] knowledge! I would never be so bold.(bold added) Do you mean you'd never be so bold as to make an absolute claim? Like the absolute claim that absolute knowledge can not be possessed?  Oopsie 
 (September 22, 2014 at 4:29 pm)ShaMan Wrote:(September 22, 2014 at 4:24 pm)Rogue Wrote: Atheist and theist alike proclaim a knowledge they can not possess, [ABSOLUTE] knowledge! I would never be so bold.(bold added) Or the claim that atheists claim to have absolute knowledge? I've never heard anyone around here claim that.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson  (September 22, 2014 at 2:10 pm)Rogue Wrote: There is evidence that he WAS. Most historians agree. There is a link if you want it.We tend to pay a lot of attention to self-proclaimed gods who predict the end of the world. Just imagine if there'd been network TV back in Jesus' day! He'd have been Marshall Applewhite before there was a Marshall Applewhite. I think the Biblical Jesus is written as a god who puts on his human costume and struts around, making the proles feel awfully inferior and annoying them with his constant "this human thing ain't so hard, how is it you guys keep fucking it up?" He's reminiscent of David Carradine's dissertation on Superman in Kill Bill Vol 2. Clark Kent is Superman's mocking portrayal of humanity, as seen by a man who can lift buildings and scorch your skin by staring hard enough. Jesus doesn't come to Earth to save humanity; he comes to Earth to bury us. "Salvation?" he laughs. "You can't even walk on water!"
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould (September 22, 2014 at 3:35 pm)jughead Wrote: OP, Jesus was neither, Jesus is a myth. This thread is really directed towards Christians. I know what atheist think.
Belief in a Cruel God makes a Crueler Man. Thomas Paine with minor edit crueler instead of cruel.
(September 22, 2014 at 4:38 pm)Rogue Wrote: I know what atheist think.No. you clearly do not. We've had a recent influx of new members telling us what we think, and without even bothering to ask us. You're nothing more or less than a garden variety woo-spiritualist troll who's arrogance is only exceeded by ignorance. I want to be kind, but I'm really fed up with defending myself from the projected delusions of others who think they know me. If you wish to have reasonable discussions on these boards then you'd be well advised to learn more and preach less. PS... If you truly are 'spiritual' than you'd be a student first, rather than presume the role of sage.  RE: Was Jesus a God or a man?
September 22, 2014 at 4:47 pm
(This post was last modified: September 22, 2014 at 4:48 pm by JesusHChrist.)
(September 22, 2014 at 4:44 pm)ShaMan Wrote: No. you clearly do not. We've had a recent influx of new members telling us what we think, and without even bothering to ask us. Yes we have...and why is that? Some course start up at Liberty Bible College, "Goading the Godless - 101"? Syllabus 1. Be arrogant 2. Be obnoxious 3. Be sanctimonious 4. Smell funny |
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