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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
November 8, 2014 at 10:15 pm
(November 8, 2014 at 8:24 pm)snowtracks Wrote: atheistic naturalism has a gapping hole in logic which is that human beings have a mind that displays personhood, intentionality, emotions, etc.; but the origin of that is mindless and nonconscious. So the end product reflects back on something that can’t reflect forward.
consciousness to consciousness, consciousness to nonconscious makes sense. nonconscious to consciousness is nonsense. about time you gave the 'mind' it's due. after all, it's order of magnitude capabilities over matter is infinity.
A gap in knowledge in how life arisen doesn't mean the supporting evidence for evolution and abiogenesis doesn't exist.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
November 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm
(November 8, 2014 at 10:15 pm)Surgenator Wrote: (November 8, 2014 at 8:24 pm)snowtracks Wrote: atheistic naturalism has a gapping hole in logic which is that human beings have a mind that displays personhood, intentionality, emotions, etc.; but the origin of that is mindless and nonconscious. So the end product reflects back on something that can’t reflect forward.
consciousness to consciousness, consciousness to nonconscious makes sense. nonconscious to consciousness is nonsense. about time you gave the 'mind' it's due. after all, it's order of magnitude capabilities over matter is infinity.
A gap in knowledge in how life arisen doesn't mean the supporting evidence for evolution and abiogenesis doesn't exist.
It does if you stick your fingers in your ears and repeat " Lalalalala no listening lalalalala".
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
November 10, 2014 at 8:31 pm
(November 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (November 8, 2014 at 10:15 pm)Surgenator Wrote: A gap in knowledge in how life arisen doesn't mean the supporting evidence for evolution and abiogenesis doesn't exist.
It does if you stick your fingers in your ears and repeat " Lalalalala no listening lalalalala". life without eternity doesn't makes sense; no spinning can adjust that.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
November 10, 2014 at 8:36 pm
(November 10, 2014 at 8:31 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: It does if you stick your fingers in your ears and repeat " Lalalalala no listening lalalalala". life without eternity doesn't makes sense; no spinning can adjust that.
Your statement, "life without eternity", doesn't make any sense. I can't even understand what you're trying to say.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
November 10, 2014 at 8:37 pm
(November 10, 2014 at 8:31 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: It does if you stick your fingers in your ears and repeat " Lalalalala no listening lalalalala". life without eternity doesn't makes sense; no spinning can adjust that.
Because your sense of what makes sense or not is the sole arbiter of reality. 
Besides, in a world where quantum mechanics exists, "making sense" is no longer a good indicator of reality, especially when it's the intuitive, ideologically tainted "sense" of your uneducated ass, Snowy. We live in a world where you can replicate the double slit experiment pretty easily; you don't get to talk about "making sense" anymore as though it has any influence on what's actually real.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
November 10, 2014 at 9:22 pm
(November 10, 2014 at 8:31 pm)snowtracks Wrote: life without eternity doesn't makes sense; no spinning can adjust that.
Argument from ignorance.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
November 10, 2014 at 9:48 pm
(November 10, 2014 at 8:31 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: It does if you stick your fingers in your ears and repeat " Lalalalala no listening lalalalala". life without eternity doesn't makes sense; no spinning can adjust that.
Life with eternity doesn't makes sense; no spinning can adjust that.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
November 11, 2014 at 3:10 pm
(November 8, 2014 at 8:24 pm)snowtracks Wrote: atheistic naturalism has a gapping hole in logic which is that human beings have a mind that displays personhood, intentionality, emotions, etc.; but the origin of that is mindless and nonconscious. So the end product reflects back on something that can’t reflect forward.
consciousness to consciousness, consciousness to nonconscious makes sense. nonconscious to consciousness is nonsense. about time you gave the 'mind' it's due. after all, it's order of magnitude capabilities over matter is infinity.
What gapping hole? this is all explained perfectly well by evolution.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
November 11, 2014 at 4:03 pm
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(November 10, 2014 at 8:31 pm)snowtracks Wrote: life without eternity doesn't makes sense; no spinning can adjust that.
Life WITH eternity makes no sense. Who wants to watch a movie that never ends? What's the point of our mortal life have been after a trillion trillion trillion years? I can't think of anything that would make my life more insignifcant that it merely being a qualifying exam for some eternal reward or punishment that I, in my finiteness, can never actually merit, either way.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
November 11, 2014 at 4:32 pm
(November 10, 2014 at 8:31 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 8, 2014 at 10:22 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: It does if you stick your fingers in your ears and repeat " Lalalalala no listening glalalalala". life without eternity doesn't makes sense; no spinning can adjust that.
That fact that you are too big of an idiot to make sense of something is not an excuse to propose "it doesn't make sense to my kind of idiot" as a sort of stand in for an actual argument.
Now kindly fuck off and go be your usual retard by yourself.
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