So well.. today i gotten into a interesting conversation with a theist. Well it was a talk about of faith and how i have faith that science and scientific research needs faith.
The point being is that it doesn't require faith because here in the real world medical science and other forms of it do not require it. Faith is and faith will always be wishful thinking.
The only way faith would have anything to do with medical science if we lived in the bronze age where a "doctor" would pray for the person to get better or some herbal made paste.
The point being if that were true today where medication wasn't tested and made sure it is safe the person would have faith for the medication to kill them. ill say this faith is wishful thinking.
Faith isn't bad and its neither good. Point being made i do not need faith.

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(December 15, 2014 at 5:45 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: D..dyres...please... Spellcheck/syntax check.

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Quote:Well it was a talk about of faith and how i have faith that science and scientific research needs faith.

You shouldn't talk to idiots about idiocy.

They are pros at idiocy.


There is no comparison between scientific research (done properly - not this creatard horseshit) and the bullshit that religious assholes tell themselves.

(December 15, 2014 at 6:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Well it was a talk about of faith and how i have faith that science and scientific research needs faith.

You shouldn't talk to idiots about idiocy.

They are pros at idiocy.


There is no comparison between scientific research (done properly - not this creatard horseshit) and the bullshit that religious assholes tell themselves.

she thinks atheists and scientists have faith when they do things.
I told her there i did not need faith btw.

She's an idiot.

I do not need 'faith' to know that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow. It has done so everyday throughout human history. The accumulated evidence is that it will do so again tomorrow.

Contrast that with accepting on faith the 'dead-jew-on-a-stick' nonsense.

I don't think I've ever had an interesting conversation with a theist, at least not about religion. Those conversations always end the same way for me - elevated blood pressure and an overwhelming desire to pull my hair out.

(December 15, 2014 at 6:58 pm)Strider Wrote: I don't think I've ever had an interesting conversation with a theist, at least not about religion. Those conversations always end the same way for me - elevated blood pressure and an overwhelming desire to pull my hair out.

i know how you feel. in the south i met someone who believed that other races came from different animals.

I find that "confidence" does a better job than "faith" in describing what I have in a given idea.

(December 15, 2014 at 7:03 pm)Exian Wrote: I find that "confidence" does a better job than "faith" in describing what I have in a given idea.

people should stop using faith and use confidence. it would make a bit more sense then saying i have faith there is xxx.