Actually, how we "feel" about it, faith or confidence, doesn't matter in the least. The earth revolves regardless of pro or anti faith or confidence. It just is, and science just observes and tests what "is."
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putting the brakes on faith
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 (December 15, 2014 at 7:00 pm)dyresand Wrote: i know how you feel. in the south i met someone who believed that other races came from different animals.It doesn't surprise me. An old man at a warehouse I used to work at said with dead earnestness that black people were black because they bore the mark of Cain. That's the kind of crazy I have to contend with here.
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~ Benjamin Franklin
 Quote:That's the kind of crazy I have to contend with here. Yup. Dumb as a bag of bricks.  (December 15, 2014 at 8:18 pm)Strider Wrote:(December 15, 2014 at 7:00 pm)dyresand Wrote: i know how you feel. in the south i met someone who believed that other races came from different animals.It doesn't surprise me. An old man at a warehouse I used to work at said with dead earnestness that black people were black because they bore the mark of Cain. That's the kind of crazy I have to contend with here. I had a Mormon friend one tell me very seriously that "Black people are descendants of a cursed race."
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
 (December 15, 2014 at 8:20 pm)Spooky Wrote:(December 15, 2014 at 8:18 pm)Strider Wrote: It doesn't surprise me. An old man at a warehouse I used to work at said with dead earnestness that black people were black because they bore the mark of Cain. That's the kind of crazy I have to contend with here. its really messed up in so many ways to make such assumptions because literally everyone in the world is related. so congrats i guess you just i don't know have been a asshole to a very very very extremely very distant cousin. and besides skin color has to due with location so people are just ignorant just because they have a darker skin color doesn't make them less human.
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faith has different levels and is used rather losely these days. I don't do "blind faith" but I have "faith" that my kids will be in school tomorrow. twist it this away or twist it that way. whatever floats the agenda boat.
(December 15, 2014 at 9:14 pm)comet Wrote: faith has different levels and is used rather losely these days. I don't do "blind faith" but I have "faith" that my kids will be in school tomorrow. twist it this away or twist it that way. whatever floats the agenda boat. yeah like some thiests. these godless atheists have no faith and faith is the only way for humanity to ascend to heaven for greatness and glory. and also my favorite one the world is in a perilous ruin the end times are here there are many godless people and the atheists will try to trick you and the devil wants your soul repent have faith jesus is coming back. <- lots of end of the world prophecies turned out of be false yet Christianity wont accept theirs is false.
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It is sad that theists have had to resort to cheap tactics such as using one word to mean two different things and hoping you don't notice. Something that is true does not need mental gymnastics and sleight of hand to demonstrate.
Every apologist tactic is inherently dishonest. The only question is whether they realize they are doing it. If you have already drawn your conclusions based on emotions or conditioning, then you also assume your arguments make sense I suppose. You can't or won't think about the consequence of them being faulty. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum  (December 15, 2014 at 9:14 pm)comet Wrote: faith has different levels and is used rather losely these days. I don't do "blind faith" but I have "faith" that my kids will be in school tomorrow. twist it this away or twist it that way. whatever floats the agenda boat.I think the way theists use it changes the word. Faith as we use it outside of religion implies trust that has a basis of some sort. Faith as used by religion specifies trust without any basis ("blessed are those who do not see, yet believe"). This allows them to bypass the normal way in which we express belief, so that not having any tangible evidence becomes a feature and not a bug.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
Whoever came up with the idea that believing without evidence is a good thing, is the one everyone should be worshipping. It's the most brilliant con ever.
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