had been as on top of things as the Chinese maybe the world wouldn't be so fucked up?

http://apnews.excite.com/article/2014122...2c756.html

Quote:Two days before Christmas, members of a rural Christian congregation in eastern China welded pieces of metal into a cross and hoisted it onto the top of a worship hall to replace one that was forcibly removed in October.

Within an hour, township officials and uniformed men barged onto the church ground and tore down the cross.

(December 25, 2014 at 1:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: had been as on top of things as the Chinese maybe the world wouldn't be so fucked up?

http://apnews.excite.com/article/2014122...2c756.html

Quote:Two days before Christmas, members of a rural Christian congregation in eastern China welded pieces of metal into a cross and hoisted it onto the top of a worship hall to replace one that was forcibly removed in October.

Within an hour, township officials and uniformed men barged onto the church ground and tore down the cross.

Maybe there is a reason why the Chinese empire is still around after 2000 years, where as the one afflicted with the jesus cult isn't.

Freedom of conscience should not be abrogated.

It's not like the Chinese authorities nailed 95 theses to the door.

(December 25, 2014 at 2:02 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: It's not like the Chinese authorities nailed 95 theses to the door.

So maybe the Chinese empire would soon fall anyway.

(December 25, 2014 at 2:00 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Freedom of conscience should not be abrogated.

When has the fucking church ever advocated "freedom" of anything?

(December 25, 2014 at 2:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(December 25, 2014 at 2:00 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Freedom of conscience should not be abrogated.

When has the fucking church ever advocated "freedom" of anything?

When have I claimed they did?

My point was political, not theological. I had though that was obvious.

And it annoys me no end, the christers are going to work themselves into a froth over this decrossification in China without first evaluating the franchise there for ideological purity and conformance to the terms and conditions as set down by god almighty.

They might be apostates, blasphemers and/or heretics, and the Chicoms are actually doing the Lawds work there !!!!

(December 25, 2014 at 2:12 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:

(December 25, 2014 at 2:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote: When has the fucking church ever advocated "freedom" of anything?

When have I claimed they did?

My point was political, not theological. I had though that was obvious.

Quote:We are satisfied that there can be but little liberty on earth while men worship a tyrant in heaven.
-- Robert Green Ingersoll

(December 25, 2014 at 2:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(December 25, 2014 at 2:00 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Freedom of conscience should not be abrogated.

When has the fucking church ever advocated "freedom" of anything?

Well, they're very passionate about freedom of religion.