(January 5, 2015 at 4:33 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(January 5, 2015 at 4:13 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You really can't accept that your own ticks aren't relevant to me or to our gender as a whole, can you?

I really can't understand why you'd pay a stripper for a lap dance when you could be home having sex with your wife.

Right. You can't understand. That doesn't mean it's right for everyone.

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Quote:You're not going to demonstrate that your assertions are accurate. If you were, you would have done so by now. You're not going to explain how anyone (even yourself) could possibly avoid temptation (whatever that is for them) in any meaningful way, or you would have done so by now.

I have done so. You pretend that I haven't. Men can avoid sexual temptation by avoiding strip clubs. Problem drinkers can avoid bars. Dieters can refrain from keeping junk food in the house. Problem gamblers can avoid casinos, or self-ban themselves in some states. This is simple, common-sense stuff. It's amusing to see some of you fight it.

All that I bolded imply existing negative issues or addictions. Are men, by their very nature, sex addicts?

(January 5, 2015 at 4:22 pm)Kitty Galore Wrote: Alpha, I understand your point of view, and appreciate it is what you feel is right for your relationship. I have no qualms with it. I also have no qualms about what other couples see fit in their relationships, as long as both parties are equally happy. Unconventional relationships are not "wrong", they are just different from what is right for you. I bolded the above because I feel you are setting everyone's bar by what YOUR bar is. Everyone's bar is different. Just my two cents. I don't agree with the agreements all couples have in their relationships, but I respect them enough to make their own choices. I respect yours, as an individual. I respect mine because we are both equally happy. I don't know about others, and honestly it is none of my business. I don't judge.

I agree that others can choose whatever they want. Some choices are better than others. It's a better choice for a husband to have sex with his wife than to go pay a stripper to rub up against him. Sorry to judge, but that's just weird. If you forsake all others and make her the sole focus of your romantic love and physical affection, it pays off.

Pays off how? Plenty of couples think it 'pays off' to be in a more open relationship.

(January 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm)Alex K Wrote: I'm having such a deja lu.

Didn't we have the same tedious discussion twice before with small variations?

No one's forcing you to read it, Sparky. I'd bow out of the silliness if OP came back for discussion, but it doesn't look like that's gonna happen.

(January 5, 2015 at 4:57 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(January 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm)Alex K Wrote: I'm having such a deja lu.

Didn't we have the same tedious discussion twice before with small variations?

No one's forcing you to read it, Sparky. I'd bow out of the silliness if OP came back for discussion, but it doesn't look like that's gonna happen.

Sparky

Oh dear that'll be quarter past the end times.

(January 5, 2015 at 4:56 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Pays off how?

Emotionally and sexually.

Quote:Plenty of couples think it 'pays off' to be in a more open relationship.

They probably didn't work hard enough at the closed relationship.

(January 5, 2015 at 4:47 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:

(January 5, 2015 at 4:33 pm)alpha male Wrote: I really can't understand why you'd pay a stripper for a lap dance when you could be home having sex with your wife.

Right. You can't understand. That doesn't mean it's right for everyone.

Quote:I have done so. You pretend that I haven't. Men can avoid sexual temptation by avoiding strip clubs. Problem drinkers can avoid bars. Dieters can refrain from keeping junk food in the house. Problem gamblers can avoid casinos, or self-ban themselves in some states. This is simple, common-sense stuff. It's amusing to see some of you fight it.

All that I bolded imply existing negative issues or addictions. Are men, by their very nature, sex addicts?

So, alpha, you gonna answer my question?

(January 5, 2015 at 4:59 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(January 5, 2015 at 4:56 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Pays off how?

Emotionally and sexually.

Quote:Plenty of couples think it 'pays off' to be in a more open relationship.

They probably didn't work hard enough at the closed relationship.

Ah, so your idea of a relationship is just superior.

(January 5, 2015 at 4:47 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: All that I bolded imply existing negative issues or addictions.

I'd say old men paying young women to rub up against them is an existing negative issue.

Quote:Are men, by their very nature, sex addicts?

People, by their very nature, are coveters.

(January 5, 2015 at 4:54 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(January 5, 2015 at 4:22 pm)Kitty Galore Wrote: Alpha, I understand your point of view, and appreciate it is what you feel is right for your relationship. I have no qualms with it. I also have no qualms about what other couples see fit in their relationships, as long as both parties are equally happy. Unconventional relationships are not "wrong", they are just different from what is right for you. I bolded the above because I feel you are setting everyone's bar by what YOUR bar is. Everyone's bar is different. Just my two cents. I don't agree with the agreements all couples have in their relationships, but I respect them enough to make their own choices. I respect yours, as an individual. I respect mine because we are both equally happy. I don't know about others, and honestly it is none of my business. I don't judge.

I agree that others can choose whatever they want. Some choices are better than others. It's a better choice for a husband to have sex with his wife than to go pay a stripper to rub up against him. Sorry to judge, but that's just weird. If you forsake all others and make her the sole focus of your romantic love and physical affection, it pays off.

I am only saying that it is opinion. Not fact. (above bolded by me.)