Quote:Here are some further logical answers that explain why the "blasphemy laws" that exist today are clearly contrary to Islam:

That faction seems to have lost the battle, Rayaan.

(January 7, 2015 at 8:30 pm)abaris Wrote:

(January 7, 2015 at 8:23 pm)Esquilax Wrote: "I'm a moderate!" only means something if you do the things that moderates do, which is disagree with the methods of the radicals.

So what do you expect them to do? The Kebap man on the corner has no voice to be heard. And what gives you the impression, they're in any way out to proselytize? They're just going on with their lives as everybody else does.

Something. Finding a voice, in this day and age, is trivial; here I am, on this forum, saying things in a voice. If I criticize mainstream christians for staying silent when one of theirs does something bad, if I do the same of atheists, I'd be inconsistent to stop at muslims.

Besides, why assume I'm talking about everyone? I don't expect every member of any group to raise their voices in unison, I'm too realistic for that, but I'd like for something. As I said in my first paragraph, those that do speak up get respect for me. But I'm not going to applaud anyone who sits by, sees abuse of any kind going on, and doesn't say anything.

This is what happens when religious people really follow the sayings of the so called Holy Books. Both the Bible and the Quran are filled with immmorality, barbaric stories of murder ordered by God, slavery, women and children beating and so on.
Religions must be abolished.

Jesus Fucking Christ, what if they had attacked the White House that day Gonzalez jumped the fence and GOT INSIDE ???????????

(January 7, 2015 at 8:23 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(January 7, 2015 at 8:13 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: What do the moderates have to do with this?

The silent ones are tacitly benefiting from whatever terrified silence results from these kinds of attacks. It's all well and good to be a "moderate" while simultaneously enjoying the immunity to criticism that the radicals wish to spread by force, but it's the ones who stand up and condemn that use of force that get respect from me.

"I'm a moderate!" only means something if you do the things that moderates do, which is disagree with the methods of the radicals.

And Muslim moderates have done exactly that. Of course, it doesn't receive the coverage that these sorts of acts do, from them media -- denunciations don't garner ratings like blood does.

But they do happen. I'm on my phone now and direct links are a pita, but look in the "what about the moderates?" thread, where I've linked quite a few examples.

(January 7, 2015 at 8:40 pm)100 Years of Solitude Wrote: This is what happens when religious people really follow the sayings of the so called Holy Books. Both the Bible and the Quran are filled with immmorality, barbaric stories of murder ordered by God, slavery, women and children beating and so on.
Religions must be abolished.

Bullshit, there is no such thing as a utopia and to think we can have an all atheist world is just as absurd.

Humans will always make absurd claims and have bad ideas. And there are even atheists I would not trust with power.

The best we can do as a species is to keep it on a leash.

(January 7, 2015 at 8:40 pm)100 Years of Solitude Wrote: This is what happens when religious people really follow the sayings of the so called Holy Books. Both the Bible and the Quran are filled with immmorality, barbaric stories of murder ordered by God, slavery, women and children beating and so on.
Religions must be abolished.

So we counter religious intolerance with atheist intolerance? I don't think so.