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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 10:36 am
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(January 13, 2015 at 10:32 am)strawdawg Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 10:29 am)Alex K Wrote: Ok, now that these misunderstandings are all cleared and we are all happy again, I'd like to address the question what that heart thing is which tells strawdawg that God is true etc  Your heart is your very core like the heart of a tree. A tree has no heart we know that. The heart of the subject, the heart of the matter. That's just poetry, meaningless for the purpose of this conversation.
Quote:Man is composed of body, soul, spirit (heart).
Obviously, this spirit thing must be something you recognize as something concrete in yourself, otherwise you would not point to it as a source of knowledge (in the widest sense) - what in your conscious experience is this "spirit"?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 10:37 am
With the body we contact the natural world, the soul is our intellectual qualities, with the spirit we contact the spiritual world.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 10:38 am
(January 13, 2015 at 10:37 am)strawdawg Wrote: With the body we contact the natural world, the soul is our intellectual qualities, with the spirit we contact the spiritual world.
Go on...
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 10:40 am
And you're telling me this NOW? :o
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 10:43 am
(January 13, 2015 at 10:36 am)Alex K Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 10:32 am)strawdawg Wrote: Your heart is your very core like the heart of a tree. A tree has no heart we know that. The heart of the subject, the heart of the matter. That's just poetry, meaningless for the purpose of this conversation.
Quote:Man is composed of body, soul, spirit (heart).
Obviously, this spirit thing must be something you recognize as something concrete in yourself, otherwise you would not point to it as a source of knowledge (in the widest sense) - what in your conscious experience is this "spirit"?
Conscious experience, I am redeemed. It's as simple as I can put it.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 10:44 am
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(January 13, 2015 at 10:43 am)strawdawg Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 10:36 am)Alex K Wrote: That's just poetry, meaningless for the purpose of this conversation.
Obviously, this spirit thing must be something you recognize as something concrete in yourself, otherwise you would not point to it as a source of knowledge (in the widest sense) - what in your conscious experience is this "spirit"?
Conscious experience, I am redeemed. It's as simple as I can put it.
I think you should consider putting it less simple, in the sense of saying more than mysterious fragments, and relating something more of a coherent concept.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 10:44 am
I've been doing it wrong for ages then 
Do you have to feed your spirit, or your soul or anything? Shit, mine probably died ages ago.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 10:52 am
(January 13, 2015 at 10:43 am)strawdawg Wrote: Conscious experience, I am redeemed. It's as simple as I can put it. It's difficult business attempting to argue with mystical gibberish. I think that's why people like to use it. How can you argue with something that makes no sense to begin with?
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 10:53 am
I heard someone talking about seeing through your third eye. I thought they said turd eye, and well, it ended badly. Couple of nights in jail.
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RE: Why we believe
January 13, 2015 at 10:56 am
(January 13, 2015 at 10:44 am)robvalue Wrote: I've been doing it wrong for ages then
Do you have to feed your spirit, or your soul or anything? Shit, mine probably died ages ago.
Actually it does need to be fed, it feeds upon the word of God.
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