(January 15, 2015 at 11:17 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:

(January 15, 2015 at 11:14 am)Huggy74 Wrote: A yes or no will suffice, thanks.

You showing an inclination to learn about something you know nothing about but insisting on arguing about would also suffice, thanks.

Your refusal to answer a simple yes or no question is very telling.

(January 15, 2015 at 11:21 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(January 15, 2015 at 11:17 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: You showing an inclination to learn about something you know nothing about but insisting on arguing about would also suffice, thanks.

Your refusal to answer a simple yes or no question is very telling.

No it's not. I answered about 10 pages back, but you refused to even contemplate learning for a second and instead resorted to your default; bullshit.

I could say yes and indiciate that secular structures do not need to be codified or indeed entrenched that that state can still nominally endorse a religion whilst being entirely secular in operations (like the UK), but you wouldn't understand it.

Thankfully the more informed, non-idiotic readers of this thread understand the points I and others have been making for 10+ pages which you do not. And that's all that matters.

-20 I think now, mate.

What does secular mean though? Does it mean round? Like secular logic?

(January 15, 2015 at 11:30 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I could say yes and indiciate that secular structures do not need to be codified or indeed entrenched that that state can still nominally endorse a religion whilst being entirely secular in operations (like the UK), but you wouldn't understand it.

If the state endorses a religion it is NOT secular, it seems that you're the one who doesn't. have a clue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularity

Quote:Secularity (adjective form secular, from Latin saecularis meaning "worldly" or "temporal") is the state of being separate from religion, or not being exclusively allied with or against any particular religion

Quote:A related term, secularism, is the principle that government institutions and their representatives should remain separate from religious institutions, their beliefs, and their dignitaries. Most businesses and corporations, and some governments, are secular organizations.

(January 15, 2015 at 11:14 am)Huggy74 Wrote: A yes or no will suffice, thanks.

A yes or no to what question? You can assume I'm too dim to figure it out on my own, I don't mind.

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Denmark is an example of a secular country that is a religious nation (officially Lutheran, I think).

Paraguay is an example of a religious country that is a secular nation.

I'm assuming you're talking about the populace, were discussing secularism as it pertains to the state/government.

(January 15, 2015 at 11:48 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(January 15, 2015 at 11:30 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I could say yes and indiciate that secular structures do not need to be codified or indeed entrenched that that state can still nominally endorse a religion whilst being entirely secular in operations (like the UK), but you wouldn't understand it.

If the state endorses a religion it is NOT secular, it seems that you're the one who doesn't. have a clue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularity

Quote:Secularity (adjective form secular, from Latin saecularis meaning "worldly" or "temporal") is the state of being separate from religion, or not being exclusively allied with or against any particular religion

Quote:A related term, secularism, is the principle that government institutions and their representatives should remain separate from religious institutions, their beliefs, and their dignitaries. Most businesses and corporations, and some governments, are secular organizations.

Nah. Again, because you're incapable of learning, I feel the nuances of a de jure de facto argument are lost on you.

-15, because you actually decided to at least type secularism into Google.

(January 15, 2015 at 11:48 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(January 15, 2015 at 11:14 am)Huggy74 Wrote: A yes or no will suffice, thanks.

A yes or no to what question? You can assume I'm too dim to figure it out on my own, I don't mind.

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Denmark is an example of a secular country that is a religious nation (officially Lutheran, I think).

Paraguay is an example of a religious country that is a secular nation.

Don't. Dry nights can barely keep up as it is. Introducing further complications will only make him implode.

(January 15, 2015 at 11:56 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:

(January 15, 2015 at 11:48 am)Huggy74 Wrote: If the state endorses a religion it is NOT secular, it seems that you're the one who doesn't. have a clue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secularity

Nah. Again, because you're incapable of learning, I feel the nuances of a de jure de facto argument are lost on you.

-15, because you actually decided to at least type secularism into Google.

Apparently you've got nothing, understood.

Correct Huggables, your unwillingness to flip back a few pages = you win.