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FatAndFaithless · January 15, 2015 at 12:33 pm

(January 15, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:
(January 15, 2015 at 12:23 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Nah...I'm too lazy to flip back a few pages~

He accused me of editing his replies and also resulting to the tactic of re-defining a word a few pages back.

What a strange little man.

I did actually go back and read, I was just being Huggable for a moment~

~~Huggy Bear~~ · (This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 12:46 pm by Huggy Bear.)

(January 15, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:
(January 15, 2015 at 12:23 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Nah...I'm too lazy to flip back a few pages~

He accused me of editing his replies and also resulting to the tactic of re-defining a word a few pages back.

What a strange little man.

My actual quote

Quote:Actually that wasn't the point I was making, I see either you or FIDEL edited it out, but no matter.

The post in question, strange indeed.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-30615-po...#pid837074

(January 15, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Because counting atheist countries in the secular column is a category error.

Just to be clear, which atheist countries are we talking about?

Fidel_Castronaut · (This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 12:50 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)

(January 15, 2015 at 12:33 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(January 15, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: He accused me of editing his replies and also resulting to the tactic of re-defining a word a few pages back.

What a strange little man.

I did actually go back and read, I was just being Huggable for a moment~

I know, bless him. Look at him go. Little tucker is going to tire himself out with all this thinking he's trying to do.

Thumpalumpacus · (This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 1:10 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)

(January 15, 2015 at 12:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just to be clear, which atheist countries are we talking about?

You tell me, you're the idiot asserting that secular equals atheist in an attempt to muddy the waters. Far be it for me to clear up your mess.

Nice try, but no soap. You'll have to climb out of your hole on your own.

~~Huggy Bear~~ · January 15, 2015 at 1:23 pm

(January 15, 2015 at 1:08 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(January 15, 2015 at 12:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just to be clear, which atheist countries are we talking about?

You tell me, you're the idiot asserting that secular equals atheist in an attempt to muddy the waters. Far be it for me to clear up your mess.

Nice try, but no soap. You'll have to climb out of your hole on your own.

no answer...shocking.
Ok, let me ask you a simpler question, are you saying that an "atheist" (read communist) country is not secular?

**Esquilax** · January 15, 2015 at 1:29 pm

(January 15, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: no answer...shocking.
Ok, let me ask you a simpler question, are you saying that an "atheist" (read communist) country is not secular?

If it's a country in which ideological views of a religious nature are suppressed, then no it's not a secular country. What's so hard to understand about this that you still don't get it after weeks of explaining? Does it always take you weeks to learn the definitions of words?

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 1:31 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

It may not be, in the case of an atheist or communist country. If we're talking about a nation that bans religion..if that's your idea of an "atheist" nation, then no..that's not secular. Similar situation with a communist nation that bans religion.

If you're talking about the religious makeup of the populace, it gets more amusing. Get things like the US, a "religious nation" with "secular laws". Or, conversely, a "non-religious nation" with "non-secular laws".

Thumpalumpacus · (This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 1:51 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)

(January 15, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: no answer...shocking.

Oh, I gave an answer, just not the one you clearly wanted, because your game is obvious.

You're not nearly as crafty as you think you are.

(January 15, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Ok, let me ask you a simpler question, are you saying that an "atheist" (read communist) country is not secular?

Secular countries are neutral towards religion. Atheist countries obviously aren't neutral towards religion. I'm not sure the source of your difficulty in understanding this basic difference.

And equivocating atheist and communist is another bit of evidence that you're uneducated. There were two atheist states in Western history that weren't communist. Go look them up.

~~Huggy Bear~~ · (This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 1:58 pm by Huggy Bear.)

(January 15, 2015 at 1:29 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(January 15, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: no answer...shocking.
Ok, let me ask you a simpler question, are you saying that an "atheist" (read communist) country is not secular?

If it's a country in which ideological views of a religious nature are suppressed, then no it's not a secular country. What's so hard to understand about this that you still don't get it after weeks of explaining? Does it always take you weeks to learn the definitions of words?

And here you come..

I'm trying to see where parkers tan is coming from, what I said was that communism was secularism taken to an extreme.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Orthodox_Church

Quote:The year 1917 was a major turning point in Russian history, and also the Russian Orthodox Church. The Russian empire was dissolved and the Tsarist government - which had granted the Church numerous privileges - was overthrown. After a few months of political turmoil, the Bolsheviks took power in October 1917 and declared a separation of church and state. Thus the Russian Orthodox Church found itself without official state backing for the first time in its history. One of the first decrees of the new Communist government (issued in January 1918) declared freedom from "religious and anti-religious propaganda". This led to a marked decline in the power and influence of the Church.

But as I said, all of that is irrelevant seeing how there is not one communist country that placed in the top 30 of this list, making the point moot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travel...untry.html
However FIDEL clearly stated that the top 10 countries of that list were secular, which is false.

But keep trying to make the debate about "secularism" vs "athiesm"..

SMH

Thumpalumpacus · (This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 2:23 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)

(January 15, 2015 at 1:56 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: But keep trying to make the debate about "secularism" vs "athiesm"..

SMH

Probably because you don't understand the difference, and and are unable to admit it, despite it being perfectly obvious to everyone reading this.

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