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Is the Chapel Hill incident hypocritical of Anti-Thiests?
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 (February 15, 2015 at 5:19 pm)NuclearJaguar Wrote: It's no better when an atheist kills someone purely because they are religious, than when a radical Muslim kills for apostasy. It's nearly the same thing to me. It's lowering yourself to the exact same behaviour atheism hates in religion, so we're no better if we let it slide and pretend radical atheism doesn't exist. There's no reason to let it slide, if this was an atheism-motivated crime. You can be an anti-theist without being anti-theists; being against religion doesn't mean being against the adherents. It's the beliefs that are objectionable, not the people holding them.  (February 15, 2015 at 6:26 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(February 15, 2015 at 5:19 pm)NuclearJaguar Wrote: It's no better when an atheist kills someone purely because they are religious, than when a radical Muslim kills for apostasy. It's nearly the same thing to me. It's lowering yourself to the exact same behaviour atheism hates in religion, so we're no better if we let it slide and pretend radical atheism doesn't exist. All too often it is, in fact, the people who are objectionable. There are theists who are dangerous because of their beliefs, there are theists who are willfully ignorant, there are theists who teach ignorance.
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Science is not a subject, but a method.  RE: Is the Chapel Hill incident hypocritical of Anti-Thiests?
February 16, 2015 at 9:36 am
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2015 at 9:36 am by Mudhammam.)
I find it surprising that more violent crimes aren't committed out of hatred for religion considering how goddamn pervasive and repressing it generally is.
But as an anti-theist, I find no rational justification for the use of violence in marginalizing the sphere of influence that faith has, nor do I feel any affinity with the sentiments or actions of those who do.
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It was over a Parking dispute, and there's zero proof his anti-theist views influenced him in anyway, I do think there is an element of truth to the claim that had this been a Muslim on Infidel crime it'd have got way more media attention.
But then again there's no Anti-theist clergy running around commanding Anti-theist to kill and terrorize people so that's the difference. If it was an Anti-theist hate crime then it'd be a pure lone wolf operation, as no big time Atheist would justify this at all, whereas you have Muslim Imams glorifying suicide bombers and terrorists and such, which creates a wider problem. But still, shit happens.  (February 15, 2015 at 3:20 pm)Esquilax Wrote: christianity has it too, it's just that christians are less likely to take that part literally. They've entered the stage of their religion where all the inconvenient things are to be interpreted, which doesn't appear to be a stage that has fully swept over the younger islamic religion just yet. That's ignoring all the raving pastors calling for killing gays and dreaming about theocracy as well as the hundreds of millions of muslims, who don't go out killing everyone not believing in Islam. It's also ignoring the christian lawmakers, who, especially in the USA, try to sneak their version of Sharia law into schools and state legislations. The only difference between radical christianity and radical Islam is the social and legal framework that keeps up the barriers in most places. Sometimes they break and the results are as ugly as - to take one recent example - the Charlie Hebdo shootings. ![[Image: Bumper+Sticker+-+Asheville+-+Praise+Dog3.JPG]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d-3rfdI7nG0%2FTerwtFyFXoI%2FAAAAAAAACak%2F7kFSmHeVrng%2Fs320%2FBumper%2BSticker%2B-%2BAsheville%2B-%2BPraise%2BDog3.JPG)
RE: Is the Chapel Hill incident hypocritical of Anti-Thiests?
March 2, 2015 at 9:41 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2015 at 9:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 2, 2015 at 6:26 pm)Fuzzy Wrote: It was over a Parking dispute,Well wtf else are we supposed to kill people over, it's not like gods whispering in our damned ears!
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I don't see anything so bad about going to the park that you gotta shoot someone over it ... of course, I'm a little biased.
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