(February 16, 2015 at 6:01 pm)TubbyTubby Wrote:

(February 16, 2015 at 5:48 pm)Godschild Wrote: I did not say that and you know it, I said it would be painful, not physical. Why would you think of violence, when other things could be far worse.

GC

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In 2000 years atheist have not been able to undermine the Bible, seems you all would give up trying, but as Forrest said,"stupid is as stupid does."

GC

Au contraire, after two millenia, don't you feel just a tiny bit ashamed that you still fall for mythical stories that clearly have no place in 2015?

It's laughable if it weren't so sad really.

This would be the bible that has been thoroughly discredited in many of its most fundamental stories like Genesis, Noah's Ark, Exodus, etc?

(February 16, 2015 at 7:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: A couple of points, GC:

1) Some atheists are probably involved in child sex trafficking. So are some Christians, some Muslims and some Jews, and to a far greater extent. For you to imply that atheists engage in this quintessence of evil while Christians do not simply beggars belief.

2) For you to accuse a specific member of this board of child sex trafficking is beyond the pale. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Boru

I did not accuse anyone the person said he had women for sale, it's not my fault he's so stupid and unfeeling of those in atrocious situations. Christians do not traffic children and young women for sex, those who have been caught by Christians doing so have tried to harm them, and Christians who are involved in free theses children put their lives at risk.

GC

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(February 16, 2015 at 8:05 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.



A PERFECT opportunity to list all 10, yet He did not. Did he just forget them ? I could see Drich having a lapse, Christ ? Idunno.

And the ones listed have to do with our interactions with each other, the omitted cover the God/man relationship. Funny which ones He could recall and which ones He couldn't.

It would have been nice if Christ had clarified how to parse them too. Seems like the Jews, Catholics, and the Protestants all have a different take on how they are o be numbered. God claims to not author confusion, yet when a chance to clear up some presents itself, he punts.

You praise Jesus for not using all of them in your 1st post, and condemn Him in this one for not using them all. You are a very confused person, right.
Jesus was talking to one man about his situation, Jesus mention the ones this man as a good Jew would work hard at, and keeping the Sabbath would have been nearly a must because of his status. Jesus knew he was vastly rich and wanted him to realize that the keeping of the first four were also extremely important, to sale his wealth was what he was to do to honor God, we see he couldn't do it. His wealth were more important than his God. See He covered them all you just missed what Christ was saying to the man.
If you believe that numbering them is of any importance, you are as confused as those who need to number them, keeping them is the only important thing.

GC

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(February 16, 2015 at 9:02 pm)Beccs Wrote: This would be the bible that has been thoroughly discredited in many of its most fundamental stories like Genesis, Noah's Ark, Exodus, etc?

Not by any means little girl, it's your desire to believe so, but what you believe and what the truth is are two very different things.

GC

Christ's followers have certainly murdered enough of each other for precisely the reason they don't agree on vague and murky dogma like parsing the 6, oops, 11, oops, 10 Commandments. (that 'defraud not' one always confuses me)

When God gets confusing his flock engages in fratricide. Seems like clarifying things a bit might not have been a bad move. The murderous oops, pious bastards would have had to try a little harder to justify their murders, oops, their cleansing the movement.

(February 16, 2015 at 10:52 am)KevinM1 Wrote: It's funny how Christians say that we don't have to live by the OT laws because of Jesus, except when the subject turns to homosexuality. Then, it's Leviticus day and night.

To be fair, they also cite Romans on occasion, when objections such as yours confront them with the dilemma of justifying two differing views in one argument.

(February 16, 2015 at 9:29 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(February 16, 2015 at 7:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: A couple of points, GC:

1) Some atheists are probably involved in child sex trafficking. So are some Christians, some Muslims and some Jews, and to a far greater extent. For you to imply that atheists engage in this quintessence of evil while Christians do not simply beggars belief.

2) For you to accuse a specific member of this board of child sex trafficking is beyond the pale. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Boru

I did not accuse anyone the person said he had women for sale, it's not my fault he's so stupid and unfeeling of those in atrocious situations. Christians do not traffic children and young women for sex, those who have been caught by Christians doing so have tried to harm them, and Christians who are involved in free theses children put their lives at risk.

GC

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(February 16, 2015 at 8:05 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.



A PERFECT opportunity to list all 10, yet He did not. Did he just forget them ? I could see Drich having a lapse, Christ ? Idunno.

And the ones listed have to do with our interactions with each other, the omitted cover the God/man relationship. Funny which ones He could recall and which ones He couldn't.

It would have been nice if Christ had clarified how to parse them too. Seems like the Jews, Catholics, and the Protestants all have a different take on how they are o be numbered. God claims to not author confusion, yet when a chance to clear up some presents itself, he punts.

You praise Jesus for not using all of them in your 1st post, and condemn Him in this one for not using them all. You are a very confused person, right.
Jesus was talking to one man about his situation, Jesus mention the ones this man as a good Jew would work hard at, and keeping the Sabbath would have been nearly a must because of his status. Jesus knew he was vastly rich and wanted him to realize that the keeping of the first four were also extremely important, to sale his wealth was what he was to do to honor God, we see he couldn't do it. His wealth were more important than his God. See He covered them all you just missed what Christ was saying to the man.
If you believe that numbering them is of any importance, you are as confused as those who need to number them, keeping them is the only important thing.

GC

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(February 16, 2015 at 9:02 pm)Beccs Wrote: This would be the bible that has been thoroughly discredited in many of its most fundamental stories like Genesis, Noah's Ark, Exodus, etc?

Not by any means little girl, it's your desire to believe so, but what you believe and what the truth is are two very different things.

GC

Yes, it's a FACT, child.

Just because you don't want to accept reality and stamp your foot like a petulant child when your myths are disproved, doesn't make the disproof any less real.

Dr RJA.

(February 16, 2015 at 10:51 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:

(February 16, 2015 at 10:52 am)KevinM1 Wrote: It's funny how Christians say that we don't have to live by the OT laws because of Jesus, except when the subject turns to homosexuality. Then, it's Leviticus day and night.

To be fair, they also cite Romans on occasion, when objections such as yours confront them with the dilemma of justifying two differing views in one argument.

Well, those that are aware of Romans, anyway. It's a good way to see how far the cherry picking goes.

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(February 16, 2015 at 7:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: A couple of points, GC:

1) Some atheists are probably involved in child sex trafficking. So are some Christians, some Muslims and some Jews, and to a far greater extent. For you to imply that atheists engage in this quintessence of evil while Christians do not simply beggars belief.

2) For you to accuse a specific member of this board of child sex trafficking is beyond the pale. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Boru

I did not accuse anyone the person said he had women for sale, it's not my fault he's so stupid and unfeeling of those in atrocious situations. Christians do not traffic children and young women for sex, those who have been caught by Christians doing so have tried to harm them, and Christians who are involved in free theses children put their lives at risk.

Do I have to remind you that you're the one who brought up the ridiculous accusations about atheists being responsible for sex trafficking (insinuating it's because they're atheists).

If you were bothered about it you'd refrain from posting such tripe on topics you don't understand.

GC, it's time to stop making decisions buddy ok? You're tuckering yourself out with all this thinking you're trying to do. Maybe put your brain cell out of its misery and take some time off eh mate? Also 'lol' at 'the person'. You mad broseph? :p

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Yep . He's going to prove I'm not God be beating me up

Quote: I did not say that and you know it, I said it would be painful, not physical. Why would you think of violence, when other things could be far worse.

GC

Ah, so when you said

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No not hardly, I'm going to prove he's only a man who bleeds just as I do.

How exactly were you going to prove I bleed, WITHOUT being physical. Psychic phlebotomy? Possibly it's because I'm so #thuglife but when someone tells me they would make me bleed if I meet them in person, I tend to think physical.

What kind of non physical, painful proof, which would cause me to bleed could you extract with me In front of you that you could not do through this medium hmmm?

(February 16, 2015 at 9:29 pm)Godschild Wrote: I did not accuse anyone the person said he had women for sale, it's not my fault he's so stupid and unfeeling of those in atrocious situations.
GC

Listen child, you're clearly so full of anger and contempt for pretty much the rest of the human race (particularly those of us in atheist Europe) that I wonder why you bother with social media anyway.

Why don't you do us all a favour and quit the forums and concentrate on sitting in front of your little altar and talking with your god privately. You can silently wish upon us all the misfortunes you can possibly imagine without coming here and doing it publicly which , quite frankly, makes you look like the deluded evil psychopath that you no doubt are.

Either that or grow up.

Pray to God to end child trafficking. If he wants it ended, he will end it.

Don't blame atheists that have nothing to do with it, we are not one big business.

Your God either can't or won't stop the sex trafficking, so if you want to blame someone, go blame him because he's either lying to you about his power, or he's enjoying letting the misery happen.

Trying to deflect questions about how ludicrous your faith is by lashing out at atheists is just evidence of the lack of rational arguments at your disposal.