(April 11, 2015 at 3:45 pm)Norman Humann Wrote: The way I understand it, Rob, is that the urges themselves are causing the distress, not the fact that they are not being acted upon.

I see, thanks.

Would the distress still be there, do you think, in a hypothetical society where paedophilia was considered normal and acting upon it entirely acceptable?

That's a really good way of putting it, Rob, and exactly what I was trying to get at.

On the psychiatric disorder topic: I remember when making it to that list was sort of a "home base" (like playing tag) for things otherwise viewed as social abnormalities, free to be ridiculed; kind of how alcoholism made the leap from people being viewed as irresponsible outcasts to people afflicted with a disease. Genetics and psychiatric disorders are both blameless, but I guess it's the stigma being argued here, as well as accuracy.

(April 12, 2015 at 1:13 am)robvalue Wrote: I see, thanks.

Would the distress still be there, do you think, in a hypothetical society where paedophilia was considered normal and acting upon it entirely acceptable?

Hmm. It's a valid question and an interesting one, too. Because of how much I know about psychiatry (jack shit) my answer is just a guess and it's as good as yours. I think it would probably still be there, maybe just not as strong.

I get your point, though. It must be extremely hard to live in a society that views you as a monster even when you haven't done anything.

Tomato tomahto potato patat toe. No mi gusta frejoles en mi zapatos.

(April 12, 2015 at 6:06 am)Brian37 Wrote: Tomato tomahto potato patat toe. No mi gusta frejoles en mi zapatos.

Yo soy muy malo en lancar, pero yo soy muy bueno en comer friholes. Come los "bean bay" friholes, los friholes de los reyes.

Porque hablamos en espanol? I thought this was a Portuguese colony.

Childish, inexperienced individuals claiming privilege

Uhmm...

What's going on

Oh, is that another pet peeve?

(April 12, 2015 at 7:20 am)robvalue Wrote: Uhmm...

What's going on

Oh, is that another pet peeve?

Yes 
That is one of my pet peeves robvalue

People writing composite nouns separated by spaces in German as one would do in English. Few things piss me off more about language than that, and it is on the rise.