(April 14, 2015 at 12:28 pm)emjay Wrote: So what is your secret to unshakably high self-esteem? I'm guessing it's not a self-help book. Is it that you were born lucky, with everything going your way since birth? Or did you have to work at it, struggling through adversity? Or is it just because of your belief in God? Or none of the above?

I'm just a factory of badassery. That's all there is to it. No secret. I'm good at everything I do, except singing. My lack of singing ability is what makes me exceedingly humble despite my general badassery.

(April 14, 2015 at 6:20 am)emjay Wrote:

(April 14, 2015 at 5:57 am)Heywood Wrote: Negative.  Buses are state provided services and the state should discriminate.  However, individuals should be free to discriminate.

If you want to kick me and my wife out of your privately owned and operated gay bar and grill.....you should be free to do so.

Okay fair point (the second one). If you take an exception to an individual you should have the right to refuse them service on any grounds, but that is very different from blanketly stating "No Gays Allowed". How would you feel if a shop you frequented and relied upon happened to be owned by a gay person and they started putting up signs saying "No Christians Allowed". You'd feel unfairly discriminated against, especially if you didn't believe you fitted the stereotype it was aimed at.

If Tiberius decided that theists should not be allowed to post here, that is his right not to provide a service to theist.

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(April 14, 2015 at 9:22 am)Rhythm Wrote: I doubt that Heywoods shitposts are anything other than a cut rate attempt to troll.  OTOH, if someone needs to feel discriminated against - I'm sure we can accommodate.

A lot of my posts are just others peoples post tailored to the opposing view.

Robvalue says, "Fuck Christain Morality....."

I come back with, "Fuck the Gay Agenda...."

The reason I am seen as a troll and Rob isn't is because his views appeal to you and you are appalled by mine.

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(April 14, 2015 at 10:49 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: Alpha isn't worth arguing with, One. He's quite convinced of his own moral, emotional, mental, and physical superiority...or at least, exceptional at pretending to be so in order to troll this forum.

Why is it that when you don't like someone else's views they are a troll not worth arguing with?

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(April 14, 2015 at 9:55 am)Cato Wrote:

(April 14, 2015 at 5:27 am)Heywood Wrote: Gays want to force people to serve them.

No Heywood, homosexuals simply want to be treated the same as other citizens in societies that are built on tolerance and equality instead of being castigated by those stupidly adhering to the ignorant opinions of ancient goat fucking middle eastern tribal leaders.

Gays want to use the force of law to convey legitimacy upon themselves. If someone doesn't want to participate in conveying this legitimacy by baking a wedding cake or photographing a wedding, then they want them fined, run out of business, incarcerated. They want to destroy those who will not serve them.....and somehow you are okay with this.

(April 14, 2015 at 3:06 pm)Heywood Wrote: They want to destroy those who will not serve them.....and somehow you are okay with this.

Oh yeah, the gay mafia. They're something to watch for.

But since the demand for bigotry is in decline, the people not serving someone for what they are or reprensent will run themselves out of business sooner rather than later. I for one would never buy from a business that excludes any group of people for simply being what they are.

Just as black people wanted to use the force of the law to convey legitimacy upon themselves? You know, when people used their religious beliefs to feel superior to black people and refuse them their equal rights in society?

(April 14, 2015 at 3:06 pm)Heywood Wrote: Gays want to use the force of law to convey legitimacy upon themselves.  If someone doesn't want to participate in conveying this legitimacy by baking a wedding cake or photographing a wedding, then they want them fined, run out of business, incarcerated.  They want to destroy those who will not serve them.....and somehow you are okay with this.

You mean unlike using the force of law to ban gay marriages? The very fact that you think homosexuals are illegitimate is all anyone needs to know about you and your participation in this and similar conversations.

First world countries have agreed to establish societies that are free, open and tolerant based on ever evolving enlightenment principles. There has been a great amount of struggle reaching the point we are at today, with obvious room for improvement. Having to stop along the way to address bigots that cannot translate a previous abstract lesson learned to a particular concrete scenario is frustrating beyond compare. You rationalize nonexistent differences even going so far as to make the ridiculous claim that previous instances of bigotry and resulting discrimination was the fault of government interference. You cannot be taken seriously. Attempting to shield overt discrimination with a market based defense is simply loathsome.

(April 14, 2015 at 3:50 pm)Sionnach Wrote: Just as black people wanted to use the force of the law to convey legitimacy upon themselves?

No, as black people are born black. The born gay (as gay as the wind blows) paradigm is a recent invention for political purposes, i.e. making the very comparison you're making. Once gay rights are established firmly enough, they'll back off of that paradigm. Gays complain about discrimination from heteros, yet gays themselves discriminate against bis.

(April 14, 2015 at 6:30 pm)alpha male Wrote: No, as black people are born black. The born gay (as gay as the wind blows) paradigm is a recent invention for political purposes

Or so says the man who probably only listens to rightwing religious pundits.

Same question as for anyone making that bold claim: When did you decide to become straight? And what attraction does dick have for you?

(April 14, 2015 at 6:30 pm)alpha male Wrote: No, as black people are born black. The born gay (as gay as the wind blows) paradigm is a recent invention for political purposes, i.e. making the very comparison you're making. Once gay rights are established firmly enough, they'll back off of that paradigm. Gays complain about discrimination from heteros, yet gays themselves discriminate against bis.

That makes no fucking sense.  

(April 14, 2015 at 6:30 pm)alpha male Wrote: No, as black people are born black. The born gay (as gay as the wind blows) paradigm is a recent invention for political purposes, i.e. making the very comparison you're making. Once gay rights are established firmly enough, they'll back off of that paradigm.

So choose to be gay for an hour or so, smartass. Show us how much sexuality is a choice. Put your money where your mouth is, or back off this completely ridiculous, presumptuous position; how dare you dictate to other people what they think?

Quote:Gays complain about discrimination from heteros, yet gays themselves discriminate against bis.

And yet again, a christian makes an argument that boils down to little more than "two wrongs make a right."

Heywood Wrote:Gays want to use the force of law to convey legitimacy upon themselves. If someone doesn't want to participate in conveying this legitimacy by baking a wedding cake or photographing a wedding, then they want them fined, run out of business, incarcerated. They want to destroy those who will not serve them.....and somehow you are okay with this.

Careful there: that kind of ridiculous, strawmanning bullshit is exactly what got you reported last time.

(April 14, 2015 at 6:32 pm)abaris Wrote:

(April 14, 2015 at 6:30 pm)alpha male Wrote: No, as black people are born black. The born gay (as gay as the wind blows) paradigm is a recent invention for political purposes

Or so says the man who probably only listens to rightwing religious pundits.

Same question as for anyone making that bold claim: When did you decide to become straight? And what attraction does dick have for you?

During adolescence, like most people.