Take it down a notch guys. I find my short attention span directed at this thread too much. Try to make your arguments without the need of staff intervention. This means, avoid a flame war, pretty please?

Apologies if my comments are the reason for your intervention, LP.

I am just hurt by some of these comments because I am a police officer. I know they weren't intended that way, but it made me feel as if people would be okay if I just got murdered because I wear a badge. Again, I know that wasn't the intentions of the posters...but still.

Sorry if my posts offended anyone or incited anger. I will refrain from commenting on this thread in the future for personal reasons.

(May 14, 2015 at 8:58 am)Pyrrho Wrote: That is the natural result of cops not being held accountable for their actions.  When the system fails, people take matters into their own hands.  It would greatly reduce the number of cops being murdered if the bad cops were held accountable for their actions.  Until that is done, everyone should expect people to be killing cops, out of anger and frustration, as well as fear of what the cop might unjustly do to one.  If cops are murderous thugs, you better kill them before they kill you.  The solution to the problem is to hold cops accountable for their actions, and convict the murderous ones of murder and put them in prison or execute them.  Until police are punished for abusing their authority, cops will continue to be murdered because of it.

You are making a very dangerous statement. No civilian should be expected to kill police members. 
You have no base to say all cops are "murderous thugs", that is not only a gross exaggeration, it is actually libel. 

I hope it is not your personal belief that vigilantes are the answer we need to the defeat the corruption that currently runs rampant in the police department. Vengeance is not the same as justice. 

My intent behind this thread is to give recognition to those police officers who have either sacrificed their lives in the line of duty or who have found themselves in great peril while serving the communities where they perform their jobs. This thread is also intended to be a memorial to our fallen police officers. I would hope that if anyone has a complaint about the police they could air out their issues in the "Fucking Cops"  thread.

To Jericho:  Thank you for your service.

(May 13, 2015 at 3:28 pm)A Theist Wrote: Yeah, I saw that video, and that cop was charged with murder, as he should have been. But he doesn't represent the whole police force nationwide as you would have everyone to believe, you anarchist piece of shit. Maybe incidences, like the ones below, where police officers face the threat of death everytime they wear their uniforms escaped your memory. Or perhaps, you just close your eyes to, and ignore the sacrifices police officers make to protect our communities.

You continue to miss the point. The North Charleston, SC case was already well on its way to being swept under the rug when the video emerged. Without the video, nothing would have happened. Again, nobody is claiming that all cops are bad. The problem is the pervasive lack of accountability for the bad cops. What's preventing the good cops from banding together and having their FOPs become vocal about weeding out bad cops and holding those that act poorly accountable? Ah, but that would violate the precious thin blue line fraternity, meaning that is more important than actual justice.

(May 14, 2015 at 5:52 pm)Cato Wrote:

(May 13, 2015 at 3:28 pm)A Theist Wrote: Yeah, I saw that video, and that cop was charged with murder, as he should have been. But he doesn't represent the whole police force nationwide as you would have everyone to believe, you anarchist piece of shit. Maybe incidences, like the ones below, where police officers face the threat of death everytime they wear their uniforms escaped your memory. Or perhaps, you just close your eyes to, and ignore the sacrifices police officers make to protect our communities.

You continue to miss the point. The North Charleston, SC case was already well on its way to being swept under the rug when the video emerged. Without the video, nothing would have happened. Again, nobody is claiming that all cops are bad. The problem is the pervasive lack of accountability for the bad cops. What's preventing the good cops from banding together and having their FOPs become vocal about weeding out bad cops and holding those that act poorly accountable? Ah, but that would violate the precious thin blue line fraternity, meaning that is more important than actual justice.

You can air it out in the "Fucking Cops"  thread.

(May 14, 2015 at 5:24 pm)dahrling Wrote:

(May 14, 2015 at 8:58 am)Pyrrho Wrote: That is the natural result of cops not being held accountable for their actions.  When the system fails, people take matters into their own hands.  It would greatly reduce the number of cops being murdered if the bad cops were held accountable for their actions.  Until that is done, everyone should expect people to be killing cops, out of anger and frustration, as well as fear of what the cop might unjustly do to one.  If cops are murderous thugs, you better kill them before they kill you.  The solution to the problem is to hold cops accountable for their actions, and convict the murderous ones of murder and put them in prison or execute them.  Until police are punished for abusing their authority, cops will continue to be murdered because of it.

You are making a very dangerous statement. No civilian should be expected to kill police members. 

He is saying it is a logical consequence of so many cops getting away with murder. He's not encouraging anyone to do it or saying that anyone should do it. He's saying that we can expect it (murder of innocent police officers) to happen because of human nature. The people will take only so much before they start turning on the police. Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't seen more of it. 

(May 14, 2015 at 5:52 pm)Cato Wrote: You continue to miss the point. The North Charleston, SC case was already well on its way to being swept under the rug when the video emerged. Without the video, nothing would have happened. Again, nobody is claiming that all cops are bad. 

Pyrrho said, and I quote, "If cops are murderous thugs, you better kill them before they kill you."


If that doesn't constitute an implication that all members of the police department are "bad", then what does?

(May 14, 2015 at 5:52 pm)Cato Wrote: The problem is the pervasive lack of accountability for the bad cops. What's preventing the good cops from banding together and having their FOPs become vocal about weeding out bad cops and holding those that act poorly accountable? Ah, but that would violate the precious thin blue line fraternity, meaning that is more important than actual justice.

The matter at hand is not whether "good cops" and "bad cops" exist, or even if the latter should be held accountable for their actions.
This thread is dedicated to, and I quote, "those police officers who have given their lives in the line of duty protecting the communities they serve." 

(May 14, 2015 at 6:09 pm)dahrling Wrote:

(May 14, 2015 at 5:52 pm)Cato Wrote: You continue to miss the point. The North Charleston, SC case was already well on its way to being swept under the rug when the video emerged. Without the video, nothing would have happened. Again, nobody is claiming that all cops are bad. 

Pyrrho said, and I quote, "If cops are murderous thugs, you better kill them before they kill you."


If that doesn't constitute an implication that all members of the police department are "bad", then what does?

For goodness sake, he was going through a cop killer's reasoning process. Read through the whole thing again. Pyrrho is not advocating that people start killing cops. He's correctly pointing out that some people will rationalize that they should and he's showing what their reasoning will be.

(May 14, 2015 at 6:15 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:

(May 14, 2015 at 6:09 pm)dahrling Wrote: Pyrrho said, and I quote, "If cops are murderous thugs, you better kill them before they kill you."


If that doesn't constitute an implication that all members of the police department are "bad", then what does?

For goodness sake, he was going through a cop killer's reasoning process. Read through the whole thing again. Pyrrho is not advocating that people start killing cops. He's correctly pointing out that some people will rationalize that they should and he's showing what their reasoning will be.

Nevertheless, this is not the appropriate topic to do so.
Someone has already been offended by his comments, whether or not they were meant to be of a clarifying nature is not the problem at hand.
The problem is bringing a heated debate to a thread that is merely meant to commemorate and honor those who, and again I quote, "have given their lives in the line of duty protecting the communities they serve."