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RE: Ask an Anti-Feminist!
June 5, 2015 at 5:26 pm
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(June 5, 2015 at 5:23 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Some attitudes on anti-theism do resemble a religion and become dogmatic. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Do you label SJW everyone who doesn't agree with you or just a handful of people? What do I have to do to not be an SJW? Is being right-wing a requirement to not be SJW?
To the second point, no, because some of the people I respect most I disagree with ideologically - however Rational Wiki is undoubtedly deceptive and bias. P.S, being right-wing has nothing to do with an SJW, but far-right Stormfronters are no different to SJW's.
SJW's are the authoritarian far-Left, they are no different to the authoritarian far-Right, classic horseshoe theory 101.
http://www.reddit.com/r/StormfrontorSJW/
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RE: Ask an Anti-Feminist!
June 5, 2015 at 5:28 pm
Quote:By that logic, anyone organised around anti-religion = Bad. Religion is just after all, an opinion.
I never said that anti-feminism = religion = bad, I said that if that's the logic you're applying to feminism you could just as easily say that about anti-feminism and as you say anti-religion - but that wasn't my logic I was using, it was yours, you're arguing against yourself with the above statement
“The larger the group, the more toxic, the more of your beauty as an individual you have to surrender for the sake of group thought. And when you suspend your individual beauty you also give up a lot of your humanity. You will do things in the name of a group that you would never do on your own. Injuring, hurting, killing, drinking are all part of it, because you've lost your identity, because you now owe your allegiance to this thing that's bigger than you are and that controls you.” - George Carlin
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RE: Ask an Anti-Feminist!
June 5, 2015 at 5:30 pm
Quote:SJW's are the authoritarian far-Left, they are no different to the authoritarian far-Right, classic horseshoe theory 101.
What is authoritarian left? Is it Stalinism? Liberalism? Communism?
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RE: Ask an Anti-Feminist!
June 5, 2015 at 5:30 pm
(June 5, 2015 at 5:28 pm)Saxmoof Wrote: Quote:By that logic, anyone organised around anti-religion = Bad. Religion is just after all, an opinion.
I never said that anti-feminism = religion = bad, I said that if that's the logic you're applying to feminism you could just as easily say that about anti-feminism and as you say anti-religion - but that wasn't my logic I was using, it was yours, you're arguing against yourself with the above statement
I think it's more reasonable to oppose an ideology which makes blanket assertions; by opposing Feminism, I'm not declaring another ideology superior, I'm expressing my dissatisfaction with it's unfalsifiable dogma
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RE: Ask an Anti-Feminist!
June 5, 2015 at 5:32 pm
Unfalsifiable dogma like "feminism is a man hating cult" which you've said multiple times
“The larger the group, the more toxic, the more of your beauty as an individual you have to surrender for the sake of group thought. And when you suspend your individual beauty you also give up a lot of your humanity. You will do things in the name of a group that you would never do on your own. Injuring, hurting, killing, drinking are all part of it, because you've lost your identity, because you now owe your allegiance to this thing that's bigger than you are and that controls you.” - George Carlin
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RE: Ask an Anti-Feminist!
June 5, 2015 at 5:32 pm
(June 5, 2015 at 5:21 pm)TheMessiah Wrote: (June 5, 2015 at 5:09 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: So, you literally have no definitions. Good luck with that.
I gave you my definition.
No you didn't. Calling it a "man-hating cult" is not a definition, dude. You have to know this.
Not labelling yourself for the sake of coming off as a special snowflake, actually reading what other people are asking you, and answering honestly without confirmation bias are all tools to help you learn and be right more often. If you can't even come up with a simple definition for what it is you're railing against, how is anyone to take you seriously?
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RE: Ask an Anti-Feminist!
June 5, 2015 at 5:32 pm
(June 5, 2015 at 5:30 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Quote:SJW's are the authoritarian far-Left, they are no different to the authoritarian far-Right, classic horseshoe theory 101.
What is authoritarian left? Is it Stalinism? Liberalism? Communism?
Not Liberalism, I wouldn't even say it's traditional Communism, it's hard to gauge an SJW's economic views on a sharp scale, as SJW's in America and the UK differ - it's moreso a weird blend of race/gender politics and snippets of Marxism.
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RE: Ask an Anti-Feminist!
June 5, 2015 at 5:33 pm
(June 5, 2015 at 5:32 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (June 5, 2015 at 5:21 pm)TheMessiah Wrote: I gave you my definition.
No you didn't. Calling it a "man-hating cult" is not a definition, dude. You have to know this.
Not labelling yourself for the sake of coming off as a special snowflake, actually reading what other people are asking you, and answering honestly without confirmation bias are all tools to help you learn and be right more often. If you can't even come up with a simple definition for what it is you're railing against, how is anyone to take you seriously?
Feminism in it's modern form = female entitlement and supremacy.
Happy with that definition?
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RE: Ask an Anti-Feminist!
June 5, 2015 at 5:34 pm
Conservatism = White and male supremacy
Happy with that definition? Or is it misleading?
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RE: Ask an Anti-Feminist!
June 5, 2015 at 5:36 pm
(June 5, 2015 at 5:34 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Conservatism = White and male supremacy
Happy with that definition? Or is it misleading?
You could be fine with that definition.
But the fact that only 20% of women identify as Feminists, despite 90% believing in equality is chilling; indicating that Feminism's problem is recognized by even the majority of Americans.
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