(June 7, 2015 at 9:20 am)LastPoet Wrote: It is impossible to stump a christian, they are always willing to pull more bullshit out of their asses to justify their inane beliefs.

If stumping a Christian doesn't work just remind them that Jesus was a bastard... I am only mean when they are mean to me, otherwise I try to be respectful.

Ask them how Jesus is supposed to be the descendent of David, as prophecy predicted, when they retconned Joseph out of the fatherhood...

You'll either get a blank stare, or some canned nonsense about putting David's seed in him anyway. The story makes no sense at all, that's the dumbest thing. It often isn't even consistent page to page.

You cannot stump anyone willing to appeal to deus ex machina.

(June 7, 2015 at 9:33 am)Britney blue Wrote: If stumping a Christian doesn't work just remind them that Jesus was a bastard...

And what do you think that will do? Win your argument?

(June 7, 2015 at 8:33 am)Britney blue Wrote: How can I corner, of course with my words, Christians and make them feel they have no choice but admit to rethinking their position or part of their positions when it comes to the bible or their god? I usually go fishing online at conservative news sites like Breitbart News Network. I'll click on a story or headline, look down at the comments and either look for key words that Christians use or post a stimulating comment, which they would of course feel the need to correct me or defend their so called faith. Is there any tools or creative weapons of reason and logic that I can use to stump them?

I don't know about stumping them but it helps to point out logical fallacies, like straw men or tu quoque. (thanks to this site where I learned that last phrase)

 Right Wingers deflect attention away from the subject being discussed so that they don't have to deal with the facts.  Sometimes pointing out where you agree can help keep them from getting so defensive that they don't absorb what you wrote. Not all people on the right are hateful assholes. Some people on the right are afraid or have never given their ideas much thought. Also, don't expect that your posts will automatically change their mind. It might take years for the idea you planted to suddenly take root. 

Read the bible. It is a screwed up book and many Christians have only read the nice bits.

Why not  run a blog? I would think it would be emotionally difficult to continue responding to crazy comments under Breitbart News.

(June 7, 2015 at 9:58 am)abaris Wrote:

(June 7, 2015 at 9:33 am)Britney blue Wrote: If stumping a Christian doesn't work just remind them that Jesus was a bastard...

And what do you think that will do? Win your argument?

Mary was married when she gave birth so Jesus wasn't a bastard. 

(June 7, 2015 at 10:12 am)Nope Wrote: Mary was married when she gave birth so Jesus wasn't a bastard. 

My point was rather, insulting their believes won't win you any sympathies to convince them of whatever.

(June 7, 2015 at 10:15 am)abaris Wrote:

(June 7, 2015 at 10:12 am)Nope Wrote: Mary was married when she gave birth so Jesus wasn't a bastard. 

My point was rather, insulting their believes won't win you any sympathies to convince them of whatever.

I agree and was about to add to my comment to reflect that. If the idea is to change people's minds then making them defensive won't help. People are not religious because of logic. Having a little compassion for the person that you are debating goes a long way.  You don't want the person to stop listening to you.

(June 7, 2015 at 10:15 am)abaris Wrote:

(June 7, 2015 at 10:12 am)Nope Wrote: Mary was married when she gave birth so Jesus wasn't a bastard. 

My point was rather, insulting their believes won't win you any sympathies to convince them of whatever.

You're right, it's that every once in a while I run into some really nasty trolls. I always keep in mind that I need to try to really really nice and use epistemology to get them to think. I do admit I need much refinement. Thank you for your replies.

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(June 7, 2015 at 9:58 am)abaris Wrote:

(June 7, 2015 at 9:33 am)Britney blue Wrote: If stumping a Christian doesn't work just remind them that Jesus was a bastard...

And what do you think that will do? Win your argument?

(June 7, 2015 at 10:36 am)Britney blue Wrote: You're right, it's that every once in a while I run into some really nasty trolls. I always keep in mind that I need to try to really really nice and use epistemology to get them to think. I do admit I need much refinement. Thank you for your replies.

But still, it only shows that you got no real arguments to present. And it misses the mark by a mile, since it doesn't even scratch their faith teflon armor.