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(July 2, 2015 at 1:37 am)Huggy74 Wrote: for instance the latin name for the Indian rhinoceros is "Rhinoceros Unicornis",...
This isn't accurate. Rhinoceros and unicornis are both latin words; however, Rhinoceros Unicornis is the scientific name for that species of rhinoceros.
Rhinoceros is the latin word for rhinoceros. I'm sure you'll find some way to be intellectually dishonest about this too.
Hold up wait...
Did you not see me specify INDIAN rhinoceros? What part of "the latin name for the Indian rhinoceros is "Rhinoceros Unicornis" is untrue?
July 2, 2015 at 4:05 pm (This post was last modified: July 2, 2015 at 4:14 pm by Wyrd of Gawd.)
(July 2, 2015 at 3:07 am)Razzle Wrote:
(July 2, 2015 at 1:37 am)Huggy74 Wrote: It's not a mistraslation, it's a LATIN word not english. for instance the latin name for the Indian rhinoceros is "Rhinoceros Unicornis", there are other latin words found in the old testament e.g. "Lucifer".
Then why were unicorns, not rhinoceruses, depicted in Christian art? The Latin was clearly mistranslated into the English of the time.
(July 2, 2015 at 3:07 am)Razzle Wrote: Then why were unicorns, not rhinoceruses, depicted in Christian art? The Latin was clearly mistranslated into the English of the time.
The Romans and other ancients were very familiar with all kinds of exotic animals but the Western Europeans were ignorant of most of them. The English didn't believe that such creatures as giraffes didn't exist until they saw their first one in 1827. http://lisawallerrogers.com/2009/02/18/k...s-giraffe/ The Romans ate giraffes in Pompei.
July 2, 2015 at 4:20 pm (This post was last modified: July 2, 2015 at 4:25 pm by Wyrd of Gawd.)
(July 2, 2015 at 2:29 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(July 2, 2015 at 1:17 pm)Cato Wrote: This isn't accurate. Rhinoceros and unicornis are both latin words; however, Rhinoceros Unicornis is the scientific name for that species of rhinoceros.
Rhinoceros is the latin word for rhinoceros. I'm sure you'll find some way to be intellectually dishonest about this too.
Hold up wait...
Did you not see me specify INDIAN rhinoceros? What part of "the latin name for the Indian rhinoceros is "Rhinoceros Unicornis" is untrue?
Unicorns are always depicted in art as horse-like creatures with a large single pointed horn protruding forward from its forehead. Unicorns are never depicted in art as any kind of rhino. http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/orig...icorn2.jpg
Unicorns are a Persian myth that the Jews adopted into their religion from the Persians. [url=http://www.unicorns.co.za/family/persian-unicorns.html}
In the catagory of questions not answered.... God or no what IS real is the perception that this particular god is real to allot of citizens. This in turn could be put to the vote and, in a possible future, make this country a christian nation. There are a few very vocal people that want this. It is unlikely to happen but it could.
so in that catagory of questions.... what would my life look like should that happen. I read some where that the pope would not force conversion of non catholics but history proves that completely wrong....ask the hispanics that where former sun worshiping Aztecs.
(July 1, 2015 at 10:21 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Very clever, Jenny. But I am becoming wise to the way the word games are played in this forum. In post 295, Nope said there is no God. That is a positive claim. But you know she never claimed to be able to prove it, so you asked the question in such a way as to make it look like no evidence is required. Very, very clever.
No, not particularly clever. Very ordinary in fact. That's the way all positive claims are dealt with, unicorns included. If you say there are no unicorns, it's highly unlikely anyone will say prove it because that's not the way the burden of proof works. What we expect is for unicorn believers to prove unicorns. It's only when we reach god that you want to turn the rules of burden of proof on their head.
(July 1, 2015 at 8:55 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: As you also know, there IS evidence for the resurrection which would support Jesus' claims of divinity.
So, it's not that there is NO evidence...just none that you are willing to accept for reasons known only to yourself.
I'll be happy to tell you why. The evidence for unicorns consists of descriptions of them in bestiaries, a few classical references, tapestries, and the missidentification of the the narwhal horn. It's far from sufficient. The evidence for the resurrection consists of three anonymous accounts (one of which has only an angle saying see empty tomb) written at least three decades after the event and obviously not by eye witness, a faked shroud, and a vision by Paul. Looks about even evidence to me with unicorns being the more likely of the two as a horned horse or deer isn't really all that unlikely though one that heals people with it's horn and only appears to virgins approaches the unlikelihood of the resurrection. Joseph Smith's golden tablets are more likely as at least we have some actual eyewitness testimony. Though given the claim, that's far from sufficient for the tablets either.
(July 3, 2015 at 2:56 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I'm not online every day, so I've lost track.
What was the question? Post?
(July 1, 2015 at 4:43 am)Neimenovic Wrote:
(June 30, 2015 at 11:15 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Your mind is twisted....darkened, really.
Insulting people will get you so far.
Quote:I've heard your story that many people in this forum have been hurt by other Christians, have had bad experiences, etc. I'm very sorry that happened. But what ALL of those folks need is not less God but less man and MORE GOD. God is love. Only God can heal these hurts.
Do you want to hear about god, Randy? Are you ready for what I have to say about god? Not the church, not the people, not the ones who threatened me and broke my brain. God. Do you really want to know what I've heard from him? Do you think you can take it?
I swear, if you chalk it up to delusions, I will laugh in your fucking face, because the same could be said about you.
And don't fucking presume to know what can heal these hurts, because it sure as hell ain't the same thing that caused them.
Quote:I leave you to God's mercy, Mike, but you saw the verse. Leading others astray is something that God takes very seriously, apparently.
That's good. If you're right, I'll gladly go to hell. If your god is good, I aspire to be most evil.
(July 3, 2015 at 2:56 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I'm not online every day, so I've lost track.
What was the question? Post?
(July 1, 2015 at 4:43 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Insulting people will get you so far.
Do you want to hear about god, Randy? Are you ready for what I have to say about god? Not the church, not the people, not the ones who threatened me and broke my brain. God. Do you really want to know what I've heard from him? Do you think you can take it?
I swear, if you chalk it up to delusions, I will laugh in your fucking face, because the same could be said about you.
And don't fucking presume to know what can heal these hurts, because it sure as hell ain't the same thing that caused them.
That's good. If you're right, I'll gladly go to hell. If your god is good, I aspire to be most evil.
I promised to shoot straight with you. If you post it, I will read it.