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Ha, huh because.... Science says so!
#41
RE: Ha, huh because.... Science says so!
(July 23, 2015 at 10:34 pm)Drich Wrote: Ah, no.

All this story does for me is to poop on those who I've argued in the past who claim snakes never had legs therefore the story of the legged snake in the garden is yet another 'proof' that the Genesis account is false. That's it that's all.

This is just one more piece of a greater puzzle.

Please provide a citation to show that someone here actually made the claim.
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#42
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If you're just going to ignore what the findings actually are, why even bring it up I wonder?
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#43
RE: Ha, huh because.... Science says so!
(July 23, 2015 at 10:34 pm)Drich Wrote:
(July 23, 2015 at 10:26 pm)ORedbeard The Pink Wrote: The idea that snakes used to have legs is not a new concept. Many species of snakes still have vestigial remnants of the limbs their ancestors used to have.

Oh wait, are you trying to say this proves your story about your Gaud taking the limbs from snakes as punishment? That I would deny.

First off, you would need to prove that snakes still had these limbs at the dawn of human history, or at least whenever the "Eden" story is supposed to have taken place. Then you'd have to prove that all snakes stopped having limbs at around the exact same time in history, and it would have to be after the earliest humans showed up, at least. Then it would probably help to be able to prove that these things could talk. If you're suggesting that one snake only talked because of Satan's magic, then you'd have to prove that Satan exists, and/or that it's possible to make snakes talk with magic. Good luck.

So yeah...while it does seem that this fossil is re-sculpting how we think about the evolution of snakes, it in no way proves that Gaud took the legs from snakes because Satan happened to use one for an evil deed one time.

Ah, no.

All this story does for me is to poop on those who I've argued in the past who claim snakes never had legs therefore the story of the legged snake in the garden is yet another 'proof' that the Genesis account is false. That's it that's all.

This is just one more piece of a greater puzzle.

Snakes did not have legs during the whole time when God existed as a concept in the so called mind of the long line of gullible morons descending eventually to you, Drich, get over it.
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#44
RE: Ha, huh because.... Science says so!
(July 24, 2015 at 7:18 am)Drich Wrote: To find God all one need do is follow the instructions in the bible.

To find the FSM all one need do is follow the instructions in a good Italian cookbook, say Marcella Hazan's Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking.
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#45
RE: Ha, huh because.... Science says so!
(July 23, 2015 at 10:47 pm)Drich Wrote: (Like how they know a planet's temperature, size, and atmospheric conditions/ability to support life,1500 light years away. by what amounts to electronically listening to frequencies we have no way of verifying that remain constant 1 light year away let along 1499 more. not to mention how this frequency is affected by time)

Setting aside for the moment the fact that spectrography is a well-understood phenomenon which does not change depending on what part of the Universe it's in, it is not used to to determine a planet's size.

Generally speaking, the laws of the Universe seem to work no matter where in the Universe we look. If you have evidence indicating otherwise, have you published it in a peer-reviewed journal?

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#46
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(July 23, 2015 at 10:36 pm)Drich Wrote:
(July 23, 2015 at 10:32 pm)PMinimalist Wrote: Did it talk to "Eve," asshole?

No, smarty. That snake and all the other ones after where cursed to crawl on their Bellys... Doi


What was the reason for their being cursed?  Just one more example of God creating things 'perfectly' only to subsequently judge and punish them?
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#47
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(July 23, 2015 at 10:21 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Fossils are lies planted by Satan to test our faith. I don't know why you'd give them any credence.

Getting the first post on a thread like this= easy kudos. Here is my more reasoned but less quippy reply.

Something like this hardly helps a biblical case, not even in the tiny degree that drippy imaginies. The legged relative of snaked existed millions of years before man, and certainly didn't speak to Eve in a magical garden. The bible mentions legged snakes existing with humans, so contrary to what Drich claims, it's actually one more little piece taken out of the bible. It was already hypothesised by science that a creature like this would be found, and it backs up evolution and helps our further understanding of reptiles.
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#48
RE: Ha, huh because.... Science says so!
(July 24, 2015 at 11:50 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(July 23, 2015 at 10:47 pm)Drich Wrote: (Like how they know a planet's temperature, size, and atmospheric conditions/ability to support life,1500 light years away. by what amounts to electronically listening to frequencies we have no way of verifying that remain constant 1 light year away let along 1499 more. not to mention how this frequency is affected by time)

Setting aside for the moment the fact that spectrography is a well-understood phenomenon which does not change depending on what part of the Universe it's in, it is not used to to determine a planet's size.

Generally speaking, the laws of the Universe seem to work no matter where in the Universe we look.  If you have evidence indicating otherwise, have you published it in a peer-reviewed journal?

Ah, how cute.. Your trying to correct me without understanding how the Kepler space telescope works..
Edge-u-kate yo seff foo.
http://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resource...pler-work/

If you can't be bothered to watch this video, just know that kepler is not able to determine a planet's viability to sustain life. A rough estimate of a planet's size, orbit, and relative position is what The Kepler ST was designed to determine. Not atmospheric conditions/ablity to sustain life. That fact compared to the headlined "Earth's cousin found" is what I mean by science taking HUGE LEAPS in Faith that God does not expect any of us to take.
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#49
RE: Ha, huh because.... Science says so!
(July 24, 2015 at 10:18 am)Chas Wrote:
(July 23, 2015 at 10:34 pm)Drich Wrote: Ah, no.

All this story does for me is to poop on those who I've argued in the past who claim snakes never had legs therefore the story of the legged snake in the garden is yet another 'proof' that the Genesis account is false. That's it that's all.

This is just one more piece of a greater puzzle.

Please provide a citation to show that someone here actually made the claim.

All one need do is search for 'snake legs.'
http://atheistforums.org/search.php?acti...desc&uid=0
Here is a page of examples:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-29989-pa...snake+legs  (This is a good one as several different people are making fun of the idea that snakes have legs.)

since we are not allowed to call people out here is a link to the search I did.

If you take 10 mins you will find people saying 'Snakes do not have legs.'
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#50
RE: Ha, huh because.... Science says so!
Interesting. Drich LOVES science when it appears to favor the Bible...

But ignores science when it disproves the Bible...

Pretty sure there is a name for that. Oh yeah, CONFIRMATION BIAS.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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