Am I Going To Hell?

[ktrap]

 Well scarecrow if you don't believe in the afterlife, then what do you think is going to happen, NOTHING!!!  Hence you will become NOTHING and BE FORGOTTEN.  Why is this hard to understand?

The above post is a strawman.

The correct response is "I/we don't know (or rather, nobody knows, which is of course the only fact when considering what happens when we 'die'"

Cite the user where they have explicitly said 'NOTHING' happens, please, using the thread, post number and date stamp so we can look for ourselves. Thanks.

From AF Post "Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?"

Redbeard The Pink

And if we come from nothing and will return to nothing,  what's so bad about that? Why do you have such a hard time believing it?

I think he got it

[Fidel_Castronaut]

And how exactly is Redbeard the Pink the user also known as Shuffle?

Also, pro tip, you can click the number on the top right of each post and it gives you a direct URL to that post for citations.

[ktrap]

And how exactly is Redbeard the Pink the user also known as Shuffle?

Also, pro tip, you can click the number on the top right of each post and it gives you a direct URL to that post for citations.

 They are not, I thought you meant cite a user that has mentioned about becoming nothing after death.  Even though Shuffle won't explicitly say it, he would have to conclude nothing happens after death.  I am not sure what other conclusion he can draw (beside the "I don't know" one).

[Fidel_Castronaut]

And what about the 'I don't know' conclusion holds less validity and intellectual honesty to the presumption of knowledge without evidence to you?

Why is saying 'I don't know' ruled out when someone rejects a claim (yours) about something that definitely happens following death but 'ergo nothing' is immediately viewed as the default?

I don't believe in any deity. Am I thus doomed to believe that 'nothing' happens as a result? Is my actual answer of "I don't know" ruled out?

Also, Redbeard didn't actually say 'nothing happens', as evidenced by the crucial 'what if' at the beginning of the quote.

A retraction of your claim that Shuffle believes nothing happens would also be welcome as there is no evidential basis for holding the idea that that position is his.

[ktrap]

Pandæmonium

And what about the 'I don't know' conclusion holds less validity and intellectual honesty to the presumption of knowledge without evidence to you?

Why is saying 'I don't know' ruled out when someone rejects a claim (yours) about something that definitely happens following death but 'ergo nothing' is immediately viewed as the default?

I don't believe in any deity. Am I thus doomed to believe that 'nothing' happens as a result? Is my actual answer of "I don't know" ruled out?

Also, Redbeard didn't actually say 'nothing happens', as evidenced by the crucial 'what if' at the beginning of the quote.

A retraction of your claim that Shuffle believes nothing happens would also be welcome as there is no evidential basis for holding the idea that that position is his.

 I have no issue to the "I don't know" answer.  However, the reasoning applied by atheist to say God does not exist due to lack of evidence should also be applied to the afterlife.

Scenario A
1) God does not exist due to lack of evidence
2) Nothing happens after I die due to lack of evidence

Scenario B
1) I don't know if God exists
2) I don't know what happens after I die

Scenario C
1) God does not exist due to lack of evidence
2) I don't know what happens after I die

 Scenario A & B is consistent,  Scenario C is not consistent.  That is all I am saying.  If in your own mind Scenario C is acceptable then fine with me, but I would not consider that consistent reasoning from an Atheist.

[Iroscato]

Sorry to say but yes all atheists go to Hell. Just being 'good' in your own estimation is not enough to spare you from the White Throne judgement.

You are so, so small. I really think you do this to make up for your raging inadequacies in life.

[rexbeccarox]

Pandæmonium

And what about the 'I don't know' conclusion holds less validity and intellectual honesty to the presumption of knowledge without evidence to you?

Why is saying 'I don't know' ruled out when someone rejects a claim (yours) about something that definitely happens following death but 'ergo nothing' is immediately viewed as the default?

I don't believe in any deity. Am I thus doomed to believe that 'nothing' happens as a result? Is my actual answer of "I don't know" ruled out?

Also, Redbeard didn't actually say 'nothing happens', as evidenced by the crucial 'what if' at the beginning of the quote.

A retraction of your claim that Shuffle believes nothing happens would also be welcome as there is no evidential basis for holding the idea that that position is his.

 I have no issue to the "I don't know" answer.  However, the reasoning applied by atheist to say God does not exist due to lack of evidence should also be applied to the afterlife.

Scenario A
1) God does not exist due to lack of evidence
2) Nothing happens after I die due to lack of evidence

Scenario B
1) I don't know if God exists
2) I don't know what happens after I die

Scenario C
1) God does not exist due to lack of evidence
2) I don't know what happens after I die

 Scenario A & B is consistent,  Scenario C is not consistent.  That is all I am saying.  If in your own mind Scenario C is acceptable then fine with me, but I would not consider that consistent reasoning from an Atheist.

What is an atheist?

[Whateverist]

What is an atheist?

I know, I know!  An atheist is someone who, when asked by someone who has drunk the kool-ade, answers that he really doesn't know what the hell you're talking about but, no, to the best of his knowledge magical shit is all just make believe.

[Pyrrho]

Someone could be an atheist and believe in an afterlife.  It could be reincarnation, or it could be just like the Christian heaven and/or hell, or like the ancient Greek religion on it, etc.

Atheism is about one thing.  It is about whether there is a god or not.  It is not about whether there is an afterlife or not.

Now, I personally think the idea of an afterlife is moronic, but that's me.  Not all atheists agree on this.

Also, this is not due to "lack of evidence."  The evidence suggests that your thinking and feeling are brain processes (this, by the way, is why your thinking is altered when various chemicals, like alcohol, are introduced into the brain), and so when the brain is stopped, your thinking and feeling stops.  The end.  That is what is most reasonable to believe, and it isn't just the fact that there is no good evidence that there is an afterlife.  We have evidence that there is not an afterlife.  Stupid and ignorant people may be unaware of the evidence, but it is there for anyone who wishes to look at it.  At least, for anyone who has internet access.

That some people reject evidence and believe fairy tale nonsense is irrelevant to the fact that the evidence is easy to find.

[Whateverist]

Sorry to say but yes all atheists go to Hell. Just being 'good' in your own estimation is not enough to spare you from the White Throne judgement.

If only it were really that easy.  Truth is you have to show enough independence of thought and be found interesting enough by the debil to be granted entrance to the hell club.  Avoiding the harps and godly salad toss is no where near as easy as you paint it.