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GOP debate tonight on Fox News
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GOP debate tonight on Fox News
(August 6, 2015 at 10:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(August 6, 2015 at 9:29 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Really? After the horribly racist things he has said? Do you not have empathy for those he has slandered?

Can you think of anything else that would more effectively torpedo the entire Republican party's attempt at the white house, including all the racist constituents within, than Donald Trump as their representative?

Honestly it might be what they need to find their identity again. Though I don't think he will win the nomination. Even if he did I don't see him beating any of the democrats.

Personally I hate the two party system and the electoral college system. Get rid of the parties and go by majority.
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RE: GOP debate tonight on Fox News
The US electoral college has always bewildered me. How is it you can have a system that enables a candidate to literally have less votes yet still win the election in certain circumstances?
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RE: GOP debate tonight on Fox News
(August 6, 2015 at 10:40 pm)Iroscato Wrote: The US electoral college has always bewildered me. How is it you can have a system that enables a candidate to literally have less votes yet still win the election in certain circumstances?

It was started as an easier means of communication in times pre-telegraph. Rather than every ballot having to be transported to D.C. for counting, the states were responsible and then each was given so much weight. That was it's primary and outlived function.
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RE: GOP debate tonight on Fox News
(August 6, 2015 at 10:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(August 6, 2015 at 9:29 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Really? After the horribly racist things he has said? Do you not have empathy for those he has slandered?

Can you think of anything else that would more effectively torpedo the entire Republican party's attempt at the white house, including all the racist constituents within, than Donald Trump as their representative?

One part of me hopes he wins because surely my fellow Americans wouldn't vote him into the White House but another part of me is terrified that we might end up with Trump in the White House!
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RE: GOP debate tonight on Fox News
(August 6, 2015 at 10:45 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(August 6, 2015 at 10:40 pm)Iroscato Wrote: The US electoral college has always bewildered me. How is it you can have a system that enables a candidate to literally have less votes yet still win the election in certain circumstances?

It was started as an easier means of communication in times pre-telegraph. Rather than every ballot having to be transported to D.C. for counting, the states were responsible and then each was given so much weight. That was it's primary and outlived function.

So it's around 200 years out of date? That actually makes a lot of sense thematically...
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(August 6, 2015 at 10:50 pm)Iroscato Wrote:
(August 6, 2015 at 10:45 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: It was started as an easier means of communication in times pre-telegraph. Rather than every ballot having to be transported to D.C. for counting, the states were responsible and then each was given so much weight. That was it's primary and outlived function.

So it's around 200 years out of date? That actually makes a lot of sense thematically...

I think it's a good representation of one of our big problems actually, it's easier to make laws than to get rid of them.
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RE: GOP debate tonight on Fox News
(August 6, 2015 at 10:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Can you think of anything else that would more effectively torpedo the entire Republican party's attempt at the white house, including all the racist constituents within, than Donald Trump as their representative?

Santorum or Huckabee
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RE: GOP debate tonight on Fox News
I think Trump's train ride ended tonight.

He's not on par politically with these clowns. He might actually be the least insane person on that stage, which is a negative in the GOP. Ted Cruz is giving everyone a run for the money on the "who can say the most insane shit ever" gambit.
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Sigh. They are all crap. I hate politics.
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(August 6, 2015 at 11:06 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I think Trump's train ride ended tonight.

He's not on par politically with these clowns. He might actually be the least insane person on that stage, which is a negative in the GOP. Ted Cruz is giving everyone a run for the money on the "who can say the most insane shit ever" gambit.

No way. If anything, I see Trump getting a 5-10 point push. He's the anti-establishment candidate. It's blindingly obvious that the establishment - media and politicians alike - loathe him. Even the debate moderators couldn't hide it. Trump's gleeful and smug disdain for the establishment, which was on full display tonight, resonates with angry Republicans. He was one of the winners tonight.

Kasich is the only one I'd be okay with near the White House.

Bush is almost done, IMO. The stench of his brother looms large.
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