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Am I Going To Hell?
RE: Am I Going To Hell?
(August 8, 2015 at 7:18 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:
(August 2, 2015 at 10:19 pm)Godschild Wrote: Deceiving yourself is not a healthy thing to do to yourself.

So, why do you?!?

I'm very realistic with myself, I have people tell me to stop it for a little while.

Gc
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
(August 1, 2015 at 1:24 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(August 1, 2015 at 11:07 am)LastPoet Wrote: Some things never change... Facepalm

Would it make you more comfortable if we lied ?

GC

Far too late for that. Wink
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
(August 9, 2015 at 7:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm very realistic with myself

Coming from someone who "knows" gawd exists and denies evolution, that is fucking hilarious.
Bwahahahaha!!!
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
(August 9, 2015 at 5:07 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As for this sentence: "How can anyone not see the irony in saying "atheists can indeed go to heaven" baffles me. Who is the intended audience?" Lol, apparently a lot of people here seem to care since it comes up quite a bit and we are both posting on a thread titled "Am I going to Hell" Tongue
I asked the question to get into the psyche of the most deluded people in the world. Admittedly, it is a pretty terrifying place.
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
(August 9, 2015 at 7:52 pm)Shuffle Wrote:
(August 9, 2015 at 5:07 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As for this sentence: "How can anyone not see the irony in saying "atheists can indeed go to heaven" baffles me. Who is the intended audience?" Lol, apparently a lot of people here seem to care since it comes up quite a bit and we are both posting on a thread titled "Am I going to Hell" Tongue
I asked the question to get into the psyche of the most deluded people in the world. Admittedly, it is a pretty terrifying place.

Not nearly as horrifying as the promise of spending the rest of eternity with a grown up version of Anthony Fremont.
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"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
(August 9, 2015 at 8:07 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:
(August 9, 2015 at 7:52 pm)Shuffle Wrote: I asked the question to get into the psyche of the most deluded people in the world. Admittedly, it is a pretty terrifying place.

Not nearly as horrifying as the promise of spending the rest of eternity with a grown up version of Anthony Fremont.
FSM Grin


I can't believe I never thought of this, Anthony Fremont, analogy!

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You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
(August 9, 2015 at 7:52 pm)Shuffle Wrote:
(August 9, 2015 at 5:07 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As for this sentence: "How can anyone not see the irony in saying "atheists can indeed go to heaven" baffles me. Who is the intended audience?" Lol, apparently a lot of people here seem to care since it comes up quite a bit and we are both posting on a thread titled "Am I going to Hell" Tongue
I asked the question to get into the psyche of the most deluded people in the world. Admittedly, it is a pretty terrifying place.

Thank you, come again. Smile
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
(August 9, 2015 at 8:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Thank you, come again. Smile
Oh, I have! I made a bunch of these threads!  Smile
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
(August 9, 2015 at 3:49 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 9, 2015 at 3:36 pm)Brakeman Wrote: There are two states, "going to hell" and "not going to hell."
The " I don't know and my completely non-official interpretation is that we won't comment on our revelations of god's word anymore" is very dishonest when all of the Bible verses, and official catholic doctrine pieces that can be readily researched, either very strongly supports that atheists are going to hell by the revealed word to the catholic church or with enough weaseling weakly states that the question isn't answered." There is no catholic theology that supports an atheist in heaven or contradicts one in hell.

Weasel, squirm, and stretch all you want.

If catholic priests have used the threat of hell in their sermons in the past, they have declared it the word of god, they never hedge it by saying "just maybe , but we don't know."

If god gives atheists a choice to be left alone in an afterlife and not having to spend eternity groveling at someone's feet, pretty much everyone would take that option.

Can you point to where Catholic teaching states that all atheists automatically  go to Hell simply for being atheist?

Why do you persist in putting in the weasel word "automatically?"

Does that affect the question in any way other than giving you an out where you can cache an "obviously besides the point latter conversion" into the fray? No, it doesn't.
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
(August 9, 2015 at 8:14 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(August 9, 2015 at 8:07 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Not nearly as horrifying as the promise of spending the rest of eternity with a grown up version of Anthony Fremont.
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I can't believe I never thought of this, Anthony Fremont, analogy!

Clap Clap Clap
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"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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