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RE: The Young Turks
September 7, 2015 at 1:40 pm
I first heard about them, I think, on TV news somewhere. I was intrigued by the name, so I watched a few vids. YouTube, in general, was new and novel to me as a presentation platform. This was maybe 2 years ago. I was kind of amused for a bit, but lost interest over time. I like them OK as presenters. Especially Kasparian. But I never really formed much opinion on their stance. People in this thread seem very strongly opinionated about them.
How was Cenk Ugyur on CNN? I'm sure that ended, no?
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RE: The Young Turks
September 7, 2015 at 1:45 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 1:40 pm)c172 Wrote: I first heard about them, I think, on TV news somewhere. I was intrigued by the name, so I watched a few vids. YouTube, in general, was new and novel to me as a presentation platform. This was maybe 2 years ago. I was kind of amused for a bit, but lost interest over time. I like them OK as presenters. Especially Kasparian. But I never really formed much opinion on their stance. People in this thread seem very strongly opinionated about them.
How was Cenk Ugyur on CNN? I'm sure that ended, no?
I actually like cenk on most things (not the Armenian genocide) but I don't like Ana as much. I find here I little too ready to scream piatarchy, but she still isn't too bad, middle of the road as a presenter like cenk.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
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RE: The Young Turks
September 7, 2015 at 2:14 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 1:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 7, 2015 at 1:26 am)Shuffle Wrote: Well look at that, something we agree on!
Hahaha, yep! The way they talk is annoying to me too, it's not even just the content.
RIGHT? RIGHT? RIGHT? RIGHT?
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RE: The Young Turks
September 7, 2015 at 3:24 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 4:11 am)Irrational Wrote: (September 7, 2015 at 1:04 am)Shuffle Wrote: Does anyone here watch and enjoy The Young Turks?
Here is the link to their YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks
Personally, I disagree with everything they say, when it comes to politics. For example: their denial of the Turkish Holocaust.
I just wanted to know what you guys thought of them.
Thanks!
Ana Kasparian, being an Armenian, does not obviously deny the "Turkish Holocaust".
Do you think I care?
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RE: The Young Turks
September 7, 2015 at 3:33 pm
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2015 at 3:35 pm by abaris.)
(September 7, 2015 at 1:04 am)Shuffle Wrote: Personally, I disagree with everything they say, when it comes to politics. For example: their denial of the Turkish Holocaust.
Right, so I guess you mean the Armenian genocide in 1915. That about right? They didn't do any segment on it and so my guess is, you simply looked at Uigurs wiki, where it's mentioned that he did an opinionated piece on it in 1991.
So, you disagree with everything they say when it comes to politics? Examples, besides that non existing one? Do you disagree with them being ciritcal on the American system of institutionalized bribery, being critical on Trump's campaign, being ciritcal on the absence of gun laws?
Yes, they are opinionated and there's a lot to be critical about, but what is it?
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RE: The Young Turks
September 7, 2015 at 3:42 pm
I'd rather watch secular Talk, mostly, but I pop in on TYT and David Pakman sometimes too.
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RE: The Young Turks
September 7, 2015 at 5:02 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 3:42 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I'd rather watch secular Talk, mostly, but I pop in on TYT and David Pakman sometimes too.
Same network.
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RE: The Young Turks
September 7, 2015 at 5:28 pm
Yes, they're the same network.
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RE: The Young Turks
September 7, 2015 at 5:39 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 3:33 pm)abaris Wrote: (September 7, 2015 at 1:04 am)Shuffle Wrote: Personally, I disagree with everything they say, when it comes to politics. For example: their denial of the Turkish Holocaust.
Right, so I guess you mean the Armenian genocide in 1915. That about right? They didn't do any segment on it and so my guess is, you simply looked at Uigurs wiki, where it's mentioned that he did an opinionated piece on it in 1991.
So, you disagree with everything they say when it comes to politics? Examples, besides that non existing one? Do you disagree with them being ciritcal on the American system of institutionalized bribery, being critical on Trump's campaign, being ciritcal on the absence of gun laws?
Yes, they are opinionated and there's a lot to be critical about, but what is it?
I disagree with their progressive opinions.
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RE: The Young Turks
September 7, 2015 at 6:12 pm
I'm personally rather fond of much of what I've seen on TYT, particularly the interviews with the police officers who admitted to the official corruption most of the country seems rather eager to pretend doesn't exist.
As far as smugness, I'd wager to say that you're not allowed to have a channel unless you're a bit smug, from what I've seen in general.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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