Incest, homosexuality

[Shell B]

Homosexuality, in and of itself, does not nothing to harm anybody. Incest has the potential to bring costly (in a medical sense) children into society. If I had to choose one to be unacceptable, it would be incest, for that reason.

Personally, I don't really care who people have sex with, as long as it isn't rape and it isn't someone I am sleeping with doing something that I don't personally care for or could make me ill (literally).

[CarinaS]

"Homosexuality, in and of itself, does not nothing to harm anybody. Incest has the potential to bring costly (in a medical sense) children into society. If I had to choose one to be unacceptable, it would be incest, for that reason."

I'm not asking you to choose one. Women over 40 have a very high risk of bringing costly children into society. Should their actions be unacceptable, then?

[ib.me.ub]

But why should it not be allowed?

Inbreeding (reproduction between two related individuals) may also involve incest. Inbreeding leads to a higher proportion of congenital birth defects through an increase in the frequency of homozygotes.[49] The effects of this can diverge - recessive genes that produce birth defects could become more frequent, resulting in a higher rate potential of these defects while genes that do not code for birth defects can become increased within a population. The overall consequences of this divergence depends in part on the size of the population. In small populations, if children born with heritable birth defects die before they reproduce the ultimate effect of inbreeding will be to decrease the frequency of defective genes in the population with an overall decrease in the number of birth defect-causing genes over time. In larger populations it is more likely that large numbers of carriers will survive and mate, leading to more constant rates of birth defects.[50] A 1994 study found a mean excess mortality with inbreeding at the first cousin level of 4.4%.[51] At any rate,the degenerative effects of inbreeding will only be significantly fatal after two or more repeated incest cases, and that varies depending on the number and quality of inherited congenital disorders of which the family members may be carriers. A study of a group of 21 made up of brother-sister or father-daughter offspring found that 12 had abnormalities with 9 of which were classed as severe.[52]

I know you said without having children, but who is to control this aspect of the topic?

Edit: Nature is obvioulsy trying to tell us something here.

[CarinaS]

I know you said without having children, but who is to control this aspect of the topic?

Edit: Nature is obvioulsy trying to tell us something here.

that may be, but as I said, we don't control the reproduction of women 35 and over, or for that matter, people who have conditions that are likely to be passed down to their children, but choose to have them anyway.

[chasm]

I'm interested to know what people have to say about why homosexuality should be allowed/accepted in society, and incest should not. This is under the assumption that the incestuous couple will NOT procreate if they get legally married, and of course are consenting adults.

Both of them should be legal and accepted, in my opinion. I don't see how it's my business what people do behind closed (or open) doors. The argument of "I don't care if they do it, just as long as it's not in front of me" only works if they want all public affection of all kinds abolished. I'd also like to point out that we aren't the only species that homosexuality has been found in, so it's not like it's exclusive to our species or "unnatural". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ani...l_behavior

[CarinaS]

Both of them should be legal. I don't see how it's my business what people do behind closed (or open) doors.

The argument of "I don't care if they do it, just as long as it's not in front of me" only works if they want all public affection of all kinds abolished.

I agree.

[ib.me.ub]

that may be, but as I said, we don't control the reproduction of women 35 and over, or for that matter, people who have conditions that are likely to be passed down to their children, but choose to have them anyway.

Look I don't know. Basically, for me, it just dosen't feel right.

[CarinaS]

Look I don't know. Basically, for me, it just dosen't feel right.

that's alright, but is it ok if homosexuality doesn't feel right to Me? this is the hypocrisy I've been seeing.

[ib.me.ub]

that's alright, but is it ok if homosexuality doesn't feel right to Me? this is the hypocrisy I've been seeing.

Well, from my point of view, you are entitled to have an opinion. Homosexuality dosen't feel right to me either.

So why is one legal and the other not? Well you probably need to do some more research on the subject.

[CarinaS]

Well, from my point of view, you are entitled to have an opinion. Homosexuality dosen't feel right to me either.

So why is one legal and the other not? Well you probably need to do some more research on the subject.

I see where you're coming from a little more now...I assume it's illegal because of the birth defect issue, and the nature of the taboo itself. I was not attacking you, I promise. Many people have basically said that I am not entitled to that opinion, and that gets old. Thanks