Statler Waldorf - Raising from the dead.

[KichigaiNeko]

There is hope then ...Yes???

Only if the experiment is unstintingly carried to its ultimate conclusion.

Much better than world peace...agreed

[Justtristo]

”The laws of nature are the way we describe how the world usually works. If someone drops an apple, it falls to the floor. That’s gravity. However, if someone were to drop an apple and I were to reach over and grab it before it hit the ground, I wouldn’t be overturning the law of gravity. I would simply be intervening. In a similar way, God is able to reach into the world that he created by performing a miracle. He isn’t contravening or overturning the laws of nature. He’s simply intervening” - J.P. Moreland

Is J.P. Moreland familiar by any chance with the force of electromagnetism which is far stronger than that of gravity? The force of electromagnetism negates the force of gravity to the extent, that a human can pick up an apple which is being dropped.

[tackattack]

I don't know if he was farmiliar with it, but did you miss the point?

[Justtristo]

I don't know if he was farmiliar with it, but did you miss the point?

No I not, since J.P. Moreland is saying something which happens all the time in nature (namely items being picked up) is some how an intervention in the laws of nature.

[tackattack]

So then if miracles are intervening and not in violation of the laws of Nature, why is there such a big hulabaloo over them?

[Anomalocaris]

There is no outside intervention in nature, so there is no miracle.

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

The thing about raising the dead is that not only are there modern instances of it, but it's been studied and natural processes were proven to be in play.
In this case - making zombies.

[Justtristo]

The thing about raising the dead is that not only are there modern instances of it, but it's been studied and natural processes were proven to be in play.
In this case - making zombies.

It makes you wonder if people in biblical times were creating potions similar to those used in Haiti to make people appear dead, then sometime later they wake up, appearing to others that they had been resurrected from the dead.

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

It makes you wonder if people in biblical times were creating potions similar to those used in Haiti to make people appear dead, then sometime later they wake up, appearing to others that they had been resurrected from the dead.

I don't know but now I have an image of a zombie Jesus in my head and that is a wonderful gift.



My favorite thing that I've ever heard anywhere in regards to creationism actually comes from the above link about Zombie Jesus:

Creationism came about after an inbreeding experiment produced a mutant gene that allowed otherwise normal humans to continue to walk and talk after their brains had already been consumed.

[Justtristo]

I don't know but now I have an image of a zombie Jesus in my head and that is a wonderful gift.

lol, I was not actually thinking of Jesus, because people being raised from the dead occurs a few times in both the old and new testaments. Also Jesus and his apostles in the New Testament were mentioned raising people from the dead, I was thinking of that rather than the story of the resurrection of Jesus.

It makes you think if people back in New Testament times were using the same sort of stuff as Haiti voodoo priests to drug people, make them appear dead and then come out of their graves or appear to suddenly leap back to life.