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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 12:18 am
(October 9, 2015 at 12:11 am)Irrational Wrote: Well, ok. It's not that I don't believe him. It's that I don't want to admit it. 
WHY DO YOU HATE DRAGONS!?
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 12:22 am
(October 9, 2015 at 12:18 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (October 9, 2015 at 12:11 am)Irrational Wrote: Well, ok. It's not that I don't believe him. It's that I don't want to admit it.
WHY DO YOU HATE DRAGONS!?
Because they make me not want to go sin, and I hate that. I wish I could just go out there and kill and steal and lie all the time.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 12:26 am
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 2:00 am
Christ make it very clear: Hell is something people choose; no one alive has totally missed “hearing God’s call” and would prefer the unrighteous state it offers. God gives free will and people choose (the Garden-of-Eden very good, and later made it even better with free will). The word ‘torment’ (God can‘t torment {yes, there’s are things He can’t do} since that violate His nature.) is better translated to the word ‘restraint’. The more evil a spiritual entity* has demonstrated, the more ‘restraint’ they will have there; consequently, that 'old serpent' (who ’believes’ in God’s existence) will be the most bound and won't be in charge of anything. An aside, believing in the existence of God is not the deciding factor where one finds their eternal abode.
*Persons are made in God image which means they have a Spirit and as such are eternal beings. The Angels also are endowed with a Spirit; they watched as God laid-out the foundation of the Earth some 5 billion years ago which demonstrates the eternal nature of spiritual beings.**
** Ref Job - “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? On what were its bases sunk,
or who laid its cornerstone when all the Angels shouted for joy?
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 3:39 am
Hell is temporary. Everyone makes bail on Judgment Day. And even if a person has been in hell he still get into the gaudy bejeweled golden cube called New Jerusalem but only if he's a Jew. So all Gentiles will end up in the lake of fire, which isn't hell. Pat Robertson and Billy Graham are going to be pissed.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 5:05 am
(October 8, 2015 at 11:52 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 11:48 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Do you know for certain that there are no dragons? Or do you just assume there aren't due to lack of evidence?
No I can't say for sure there are no dragons.
That's our point matey...
Yes, you can logically say with a high degree of certainty (but not absolute) that there are no dragons around.
Hold that feeling. That how we are with your gods and the 3,500 before him. It's really just common sense.
The indoctrinated mind puts a skewed logic on common sense for the belief to survive. That's all.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 5:36 am
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(October 8, 2015 at 11:52 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: No I can't say for sure there are no dragons.
Well, then - that's some flying circus of a universe you must be living in. Dragons, giants, vampires, warewolves, elves, gnomes, pixies, fairies, trolls, griffins, yeti, aliens, gins, ghosts, angels, demons, unicorns, halflings, talking animals, Manbear-pig - and thousands of other beings, that you can't be sure don't exist - all because you can't admit, that people make sh*t up and that claims without evidence - including religious ones - are abundant and worthless.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 6:15 am
(October 8, 2015 at 3:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'mmmmmmmmm dreaming of a whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite Christmassssssssssssss
Dat's Racist! 
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 7:06 am
(October 9, 2015 at 12:18 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (October 9, 2015 at 12:11 am)Irrational Wrote: Well, ok. It's not that I don't believe him. It's that I don't want to admit it.
WHY DO YOU HATE DRAGONS!?
Just out of interest,I know that in the ancient world dragon's meant dinosaurs,the scientist's renamed it to dinosaurs and referred dragon's as mythical creature's.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 8:44 am
Ok, I realise you're gone, but for the benefit of the people playing along at home please stop with the childish Hovind bollocks.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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