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RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 10, 2015 at 10:29 pm
(October 10, 2015 at 10:20 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 10, 2015 at 10:17 pm)Irrational Wrote: Because you don't want to be convinced of the truth. It's not something to be proud of by the way.
You know the truth?
I do and so can you if you open your heart and mind to FSM
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RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 10, 2015 at 10:29 pm
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(October 10, 2015 at 9:55 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: (October 10, 2015 at 9:14 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: excuse me this is a forum for all people to bring their beliefs. The makers of the website asked me to state my belief because all are welcome. not to mention the different categories that are available to post threads on.
adam knew good and evil the day he ate the forbidden fruit which was forbidden for a reason. We were made perfect and we could live with God before that.
and the tower of babel was so that the people could reach heaven and be like the Most High. It was God punishing them for their pride. It also serves as a metaphor that you cannot work your way to Heaven.
Jesus said, "They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." Luke 5:31
the self-righteous will not seek a savior, but the one's who know they are sinners will look to the Savior Jesus Christ, and the Lord is faithful and true. He cannot lie and He promises us eternal life when we believe on Him.
The Lord is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Just because you're welcome here and haven't been thrown out (yet) doesn't mean this isn't specifically an atheist forum. Look at the name. atheistforums.com. Not belief.net. Don't pretend you don't know where you are because you do know when it's convenient for you.
If Adam didn't know good and evil until he are the forbidden fruit then he had no way of knowing that disobeying god was evil. So the problem remains. Why would god punish Adam instead of teaching him? God knew what Adam would do. It was a set up and if anybody goes to hell, it's because of god. Jesus even said in Luke 4 that his purpose for speaking in parables was so the people would not understand and repent and be saved. I know that's a terrible thing, but read what he said, not what the Sunday school teacher said he said.
If god just wanted to punish the people at the Tower of Babel for their pride, all he had to do was wait 'til they ran out of stones and realized they still could not reach heaven. But the bible says god said if left alone there would be no limit to what the people could accomplish. The thought of humans rising out of the dust and working together to achieve a goal he had not set for them, botheed god. You call this pride. But here at the atheistforums.com we don't think it evil to have a goal your god did not set for us.
stop advising God what He should've done
the disciples asked why speakest thou unto them in parable?
"Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given." He spoke in parables about heaven to the saved and he explains the meaning of the parables literally right after in the bible.
(October 10, 2015 at 10:29 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: (October 10, 2015 at 10:20 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: You know the truth?
I do and so can you if you open your heart and mind to FSM
you speak as much truth as the serpent in the garden of Eden
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RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 10, 2015 at 11:33 pm
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(October 10, 2015 at 10:29 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 10, 2015 at 9:55 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Just because you're welcome here and haven't been thrown out (yet) doesn't mean this isn't specifically an atheist forum. Look at the name. atheistforums.com. Not belief.net. Don't pretend you don't know where you are because you do know when it's convenient for you.
If Adam didn't know good and evil until he are the forbidden fruit then he had no way of knowing that disobeying god was evil. So the problem remains. Why would god punish Adam instead of teaching him? God knew what Adam would do. It was a set up and if anybody goes to hell, it's because of god. Jesus even said in Luke 4 that his purpose for speaking in parables was so the people would not understand and repent and be saved. I know that's a terrible thing, but read what he said, not what the Sunday school teacher said he said.
If god just wanted to punish the people at the Tower of Babel for their pride, all he had to do was wait 'til they ran out of stones and realized they still could not reach heaven. But the bible says god said if left alone there would be no limit to what the people could accomplish. The thought of humans rising out of the dust and working together to achieve a goal he had not set for them, botheed god. You call this pride. But here at the atheistforums.com we don't think it evil to have a goal your god did not set for us.
stop advising God what He should've done
the disciples asked why speakest thou unto them in parable?
"Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given." He spoke in parables about heaven to the saved and he explains the meaning of the parables literally right after in the bible.
(October 10, 2015 at 10:29 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: I do and so can you if you open your heart and mind to FSM
you speak as much truth as the serpent in the garden of Eden It's okay lost little sheep. I am only here to bring you to the truth.
FSM forgives all he also teaches animals can't talk, silly billy. RAmen
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RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 10, 2015 at 11:52 pm
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(October 10, 2015 at 10:29 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: you speak as much truth as the serpent in the garden of Eden
Genesis 2:16-17 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 3:4-5 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Genesis 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.
Sooo, did they die on that day?
Did they f***...
Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
In other words - the serpent told the truth, your god is a liar and so are you.
BOOOO-YAAA! Another chrishchunn biaaatch got schooled! 
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RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 10, 2015 at 11:58 pm
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(October 10, 2015 at 11:52 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (October 10, 2015 at 10:29 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: you speak as much truth as the serpent in the garden of Eden
Genesis 2:16-17 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 3:4-5 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Genesis 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.
Sooo, did they die on that day?
Did they f***...
Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
In other words - the serpent told the truth, your god is a liar and so are you.
BOOOO-YAAA! Christian biaaatch got schooled!
You're just interpreting it wrong, You know you're doing it right if your head hurts from mental gymnastics to make it, make sense.
FSM would never be so dumb as to make a perfect eden and place the no no tree in said eden.
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RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 11, 2015 at 12:03 am
(October 10, 2015 at 11:52 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (October 10, 2015 at 10:29 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: you speak as much truth as the serpent in the garden of Eden
Genesis 2:16-17 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 3:4-5 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Genesis 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.
Sooo, did they die on that day?
Did they f***...
Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
In other words - the serpent told the truth, your god is a liar and so are you.
BOOOO-YAAA! Another chrishchunn biaaatch got schooled!
2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
No man has lived to be a thousand years old. Adam died 930 years.
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RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 11, 2015 at 12:04 am
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RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 11, 2015 at 12:10 am
(October 11, 2015 at 12:03 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: 2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
No man has lived to be a thousand years old. Adam died 930 years.
Oh, so god can't tell the time? Is your god retarded? Because that would explain a few things...
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RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 11, 2015 at 12:13 am
(October 11, 2015 at 12:03 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 10, 2015 at 11:52 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Genesis 2:16-17 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 3:4-5 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Genesis 3:6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.
Sooo, did they die on that day?
Did they f***...
Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
In other words - the serpent told the truth, your god is a liar and so are you.
BOOOO-YAAA! Another chrishchunn biaaatch got schooled!
2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
No man has lived to be a thousand years old. Adam died 930 years. Wrong, Cheesus lived to the ripe age of 5,789 and a half before he was boiled.
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RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 11, 2015 at 12:27 am
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(October 10, 2015 at 9:33 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 10, 2015 at 7:18 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Just as people who use AM radios will never understand FM radio stations, so people who just believe without question will never understand reason.
Besides, I don't need you to understand me. You're the evangelist who came to my home, so it's on you to make me understand and you can't do that by being dishonest and not seeing what the Bible is really saying.
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In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. John 1:4-5
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:19
You know, I'm getting a little tired of you Bible Idolators coming in here with your prideful ignorance and telling me that I'm evil, my friends are evil, and that we love darkness.
Same for all such equivalent statements you Bible Idolators make against us!
How prideful you are! You think you speak for God because you have the Napkin.
How prideful you are! You think you represent the forces of Light because the Napkin tells you so.
How prideful you are! You worship every word in there, and think no one else can comprehend the Napkin.
How prideful you are! You think you already have all the answers, and admit you are incapable of changing your mind.
How prideful you are! You are so certain, in your pride of ignorance, that you won't even acknowledge answers staring you in the face.
How ashamed I would be to walk through this world, carrying around so much pride and ignorance.
Go somewhere else to worship your Napkin. We read other books, here.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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