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RE: What are the evidence for no god?
October 18, 2015 at 6:10 pm
(October 18, 2015 at 1:49 pm)Blondie Wrote: Now what I would like to know exactly is where are the bones or fossils of the common ancestor of human and ape? Why haven't they been found? This should not be that hard of a question for you.
You need to change your thinking: evolution is not a distinct step by step process, it's a spectrum. You can't find one single common ancestor between humans and apes for two reasons: the first is that humans are apes, and the second is that the lineage between older forms and humans is more of a continuously changing line of descent than a series of distinct steps. Look at a color gradient and tell me the exact spot where one color shifts into another; it's hard to do because the change is so smooth and small.
So the answer is that we have lots and lots of common ancestor fossils between humans and the other great apes. We've got ancestors, offshoots, mutations, and so on; it's not a complete chain from one to the other, but do you really need one hundred percent certainty before you believe a thing? Giving you a single example is just missing the point, because... well, that's not how evolution works, nor is it how creationist dishonesty works, because every single time we find a new intermediary fossil between us and the other great apes, creationists just demand that now we fill the gap between that example and humans. We can literally give them what they ask for and they won't take it; I wonder if you'll behave as disgracefully as they do?
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RE: What are the evidence for no god?
October 18, 2015 at 6:16 pm
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I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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RE: What are the evidence for no god?
October 18, 2015 at 6:16 pm
(October 18, 2015 at 5:08 pm)Thena323 Wrote: If you believe that there is no suffering in the kingdom of Heaven, you might as well believe that your God will perform some sort of miraculous mind wipe once you arrive; to ensure that you won't be tortured by the thought of those who didn't make the cut.
See? All better now...yay!
I believe, it was GC arguing for some heavenly brainwashing. Asked what is left of everyone's personality if that was to happen, there was only the sound of silence.
They have their user manual and if one is to deviate from that, they're at a fundamental loss. I really don't envy them.
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RE: What are the evidence for no god?
October 18, 2015 at 6:18 pm
(October 18, 2015 at 6:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Do all Christians study from the same (mis)spelling book?
I refrained from taking the cheap shot. That doesn't mean, I don't enjoy it.
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RE: What are the evidence for no god?
October 18, 2015 at 6:20 pm
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2015 at 6:22 pm by robvalue.)
(October 18, 2015 at 3:35 pm)Evie Wrote: Robvalue is completely right. The onus is till on the creationist to give evidence to support creationism.
If evolution was proved wrong, that wouldn't make creationism right at all.
Attacking evolution is a red herring if you're trying to defend creationism. And in fact it's mostly what creationists do - attack evolution. They tend to never even attempt to defend their position at all, all they do is say "Well the Bible says the world was created" which isn't a defense.
Precisely. Trying to disprove evolution is no more a defence of creationism than trying to disprove gravity, or magnetic fields, or anything really. If your position is rational, you should be able to defend it rationally. If instead you have to attack an unrelated position which you pretend is the "only alternative" then you obviously have no confidence in your ability to speak for your own position.
At best, it's just a tu quoque fallacy. And like 99% of times, not only is it a fallacy but the target of it is not in any way equivalent.
Of course, this is no accident that this mistake is made. It's drilled into people's brains as propaganda. It's up to them whether they continue to parrot it mindlessly, or stop and consider our objections.
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RE: What are the evidence for no god?
October 18, 2015 at 6:40 pm
(October 18, 2015 at 6:06 pm)Spooky Wrote: I'm sorry, I'm going to go nuts if I don't say this:
Does anybody else read the OP as "All your base are belong to us"?
Or is it just me?
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RE: What are the evidence for no god?
October 18, 2015 at 6:52 pm
(October 18, 2015 at 6:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: (October 18, 2015 at 3:18 pm)Blondie Wrote: I am not taking anyone seriously on here. However RocketSurgeon has shown a descent side of humanity. Many others on here attack me which really does not bother me cause because in the end, you all don't pay my bills.
Do all Christians study from the same (mis)spelling book?
Careful guys, this one will beat us with experience.
Very funny. HaHa. I forgot to laugh. If you read my previous post, I already explained this. Catholics, Orthodox, Christian, and Mormons have some of the same books of the Bible, but Catholics and Orthodox Bibles vary in the books they accept. Mormons believe Jesus married and had children. Christians reject the Orthodox, Mormons, and Catholic teachings. Mormons are not Christians, but they claim to believe the same way. Religion has been the excuse for man to keep and maintain control. Muslims do this in in the Middle East. Religion will always cause war because of intolerance by one or the other. That has already been proven, my friend. Research from the internet can confirm what I just said. You don't need me to tell you.
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RE: What are the evidence for no god?
October 18, 2015 at 6:56 pm
(October 18, 2015 at 6:52 pm)Blondie Wrote: (October 18, 2015 at 6:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Do all Christians study from the same (mis)spelling book?
Careful guys, this one will beat us with experience.
Very funny. HaHa. I forgot to laugh. If you read my previous post, I already explained this. Catholics, Orthodox, Christian, and Mormons have some of the same books of the Bible, but Catholics and Orthodox Bibles vary in the books they accept. Mormons believe Jesus married and had children. Christians reject the Orthodox, Mormons, and Catholic teachings. Mormons are not Christians, but they claim to believe the same way. Religion has been the excuse for man to keep and maintain control. Muslims do this in in the Middle East. Religion will always cause war because of intolerance by one or the other. That has already been proven, my friend. Research from the internet can confirm what I just said. You don't need me to tell you.
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RE: What are the evidence for no god?
October 18, 2015 at 6:58 pm
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2015 at 6:58 pm by robvalue.)
Close. Only my particular interpretation of Pastafarianism is right.
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RE: What are the evidence for no god?
October 18, 2015 at 7:00 pm
(October 18, 2015 at 6:58 pm)robvalue Wrote: Close. Only my particular interpretation of Pastafarianism is right.
The best part about FSM is all interpretations are right and you get free cookies every other wendsday!
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
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