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God's Name
#51
RE: God's Name
(October 27, 2015 at 8:19 pm)robvalue Wrote: I wouldn't know for sure, but it would be some evidence at least. By easily observing evidence to the contrary every day, this is evidence that he is not in fact good, unless this is actually the best he can do. A far less powerful God would be much easier to justify.

What sort of evidence can he give that would indicate conclusively he is good?
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#52
RE: God's Name
(October 27, 2015 at 8:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(October 27, 2015 at 8:14 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: I KNEW IT!  I fucking rock this game.  Ask me another.

1. What is the greatest possible instance of the name of God? 
2. Would God use that instance in an important role to humanity?

A#1.  "Gary", obviously.

A#2.  Object.  Hypothetical calling for testimony I am unqualified to give.*  


*That depends on what one considers "important" and what one considers "humanity".  My dog displays much more humanity than I or any other human I know does and she doesn't do anything important whatsoever.
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#53
RE: God's Name
(October 27, 2015 at 8:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(October 27, 2015 at 8:14 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: I KNEW IT!  I fucking rock this game.  Ask me another.

1. What is the greatest possible instance of the name of God? 
2. Would God use that instance in an important role to humanity?

It's Allah! Right!  Dude, throw me a damn bone..I just want to get on the board with some points.  Whatevs is fucking butchering me over here.  The answer just has to be Allah at some point.....
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#54
RE: God's Name
(October 27, 2015 at 8:24 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote:
(October 27, 2015 at 8:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: 1. What is the greatest possible instance of the name of God? 
2. Would God use that instance in an important role to humanity?

A#1.  "Gary", obviously.

A#2.  Object.  Hypothetical calling for testimony I am unqualified to give.*  

A#1, so you believe a person named Gary is acts to the best of his ability in each stage and follows the most praiseworthy intention in each stage?

A#2, why aren't you qualified to give? For example, why isn't it obvious to you in this case Gary would be a Guide to humanity so people benefit from his love, example, and guidance?
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#55
RE: God's Name
(October 27, 2015 at 8:26 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(October 27, 2015 at 8:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: 1. What is the greatest possible instance of the name of God? 
2. Would God use that instance in an important role to humanity?

It's Allah! Right!  Dude, throw me a damn bone..I just want to get on the board with some points.  Whatevs is fucking butchering me over here.  The answer just has to be Allah at some point.....

God is above all names, signs, mark, and hence is not the name. It's Mohammad, Ali, Fatima, Hassan, Hussain, and the 9 Imams from the offspring of Hussain who are the greatest instance of the name of God, being the most praiseworthy possible created beings, that act according to the utmost submission to God's will at each stage, and they glorify God with the best understanding of God and his attributes in creation.
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#56
RE: God's Name
Fred?

Bob?

Jemima?

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#57
RE: God's Name
(October 27, 2015 at 8:31 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: God is above all names, signs, mark, and hence is not the name. It's Mohammad, Ali, Fatima, Hassan, Hussain, and the 9 Imams from the offspring of Hussain who are the greatest instance of the name of God, being the most praiseworthy possible created beings, that act according to the utmost submission to God's will at each stage, and they glorify God with the best understanding of God and his attributes in creation.

Racist.......  What was wrong with Gary?  He just wasn't praiseworthy enough,....I smell bullshit. Redeal, redeal...this motherfucker is cheating!  

@Becc
Quote:Jemima?
When I was a kid....I used to threaten Aunt Jemima with my butter knife for looking at me while I ate.  This is what they tell me.  
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#58
RE: God's Name
(October 27, 2015 at 9:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(October 27, 2015 at 8:31 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: God is above all names, signs, mark, and hence is not the name. It's Mohammad, Ali, Fatima, Hassan, Hussain, and the 9 Imams from the offspring of Hussain who are the greatest instance of the name of God, being the most praiseworthy possible created beings, that act according to the utmost submission to God's will at each stage, and they glorify God with the best understanding of God and his attributes in creation.

Racist.......  What's wrong with Gary?

There may once upon a time been a Messenger or Prophet or Guide called Gary. I don't know.  But he is not the Messenger for people today, and the sealing of revelation was through the Mohammad and the Guides after him were to safeguard it.

Suratal Fatiha coupled with Quran is unparalleled in any other religions words. So brief, so simple, yet the whole Quran elaborates it, and the whole Quran is in it, and it's the manifestation of the Mastership of the final chosen family.

Show me the book that proves itself by it's sublimity and superior nature and eloquence that assigns Gary as the best human, and then we can talk.
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#59
RE: God's Name
(October 27, 2015 at 9:08 pm)Beccs Wrote: Fred?

Bob?

Jemima?
You too, as in your true self as opposed do the delusional made up darkness that dark forces want you to cling to and think is the true you. Purify yourself from attachment to falsehood, and you will see the truth is within you.
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#60
RE: God's Name
(October 27, 2015 at 9:14 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There may once upon a time been a Messenger or Prophet or Guide called Gary. I don't know.  But he is not the Messenger for people today, and the sealing of revelation was through the Mohammad and the Guides after him were to safeguard it.

Suratal Fatiha coupled with Quran is unparalleled in any other religions words. So brief, so simple, yet the whole Quran elaborates it, and the whole Quran is in it, and it's the manifestation of the Mastership of the final chosen family.

Show me the book that proves itself by it's sublimity and superior nature and eloquence that assigns Gary as the best human, and then we can talk.
So....you're  a super huge fan of a particular book.  And?  Sorry man, I just didn't enjoy the quran.  It sucked.  Theres better fantasy in the YA aisle at my library.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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