RE: Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
November 3, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Killjoy!
Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
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RE: Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
November 3, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Killjoy!
RE: Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
December 15, 2010 at 5:55 pm
I think it is mathematically probable that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe. I think it mathematically improbable for that life to have visited earth.
If aliens exist I don't see why we have to assume that they are in some way more intelligent or culturally advanced than we are. I think every society will always have it's dead weight who don't contribute. I personally believe that the alien races in the cosmos are too seperated by distance to ever meet each other. We're all orphaned in a stream of stars and define our own place in the universe. RE: Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
December 15, 2010 at 6:45 pm
What an image that is... "orphaned in a stream of stars"...it's like we're lone rocks projecting up from vast glittering river.
RE: Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
December 15, 2010 at 6:48 pm
I would go as far as to say that it is as certain as anything that is not logically necessary.
400,000,000,000 stars in the galaxy 100,000,000,000 known galaxies That's 40,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars If half have planets and planet-bearing stars have an estimated 3 stars average (not much data on that one) That's 60,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Planets Even if 1/10 are in the goldilocks zone. That's 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the goldilocks zone. If only 1% of those have the conditions necessary for life That's 60,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets where abiogenesis can happen They are pretty fucking conservative estimates compared to the likes of the drake equation too.
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RE: Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
December 15, 2010 at 8:46 pm
(November 2, 2010 at 8:35 pm)-KT Wrote: Just wondering what peoples opinions are on these closely related subjects. Here are some questions for you to consider and think about:
"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence." -- Richard Dawkins
RE: Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
December 15, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
December 15, 2010 at 9:44 pm
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2010 at 9:50 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
1. Is there intelligent life outside Earth?
I believe it's most likely but not necessarily so; still waiting for evidence. 2. Have we been visited by beings from other planets? Unlikely,again, no evidence and why would anyone advanced enough bother with such a nasty,primitive and aggressive species such as ours? 3. Would aliens look like us or carry basic similarities? I guess it's possible,but I have no idea of how likely. I would not expect so. 4. Is the money wasted on looking for life outside of Earth? I don't think so,but could be self destructive. We have no way of knowing if other sentient species would be benign. They could be like the Borg for we all know. 5. Could or would aliens have a similar society to our own? To which society do you refer? Why would they want anything similar to any human society? 6. Could or would aliens believe in a 'God' figure or have a religious society? Possibly, but not necessarily. An intelligent and consistently rational species would not need religion. There seems to be an underlying assumption that other sentient species would need to be like us in significant ways.An unfounded assumption. We're not even all that similar to most other species on our own planet. RE: Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
December 15, 2010 at 10:02 pm
(December 15, 2010 at 9:33 pm)Chuck Wrote:(December 15, 2010 at 8:46 pm)LWP17 Wrote: [*]Have we been visited by beings from other planets? Most likely. It would be very narcissistic indeed to assume that humans are the most technologically advanced race in this galaxy... and at least equally presumptive to think ourselves the first on the galactic scene. Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
RE: Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
December 15, 2010 at 11:13 pm
I am not assuming we are the first. But it is a different kind of narcissism to assume we or our planet warrants any special attention, or that any who came before us would be motivated in such a way that they would visit us.
RE: Aliens - Are they out there? Have they visited us? And related questions
December 15, 2010 at 11:28 pm
The very same human egotism which invents a special sky daddy just for man can easily insist that any other intelligent beings would just want to cross the infinities of space just to see US!
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