Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)

[Little Rik]

[...]I never said that the consciousness does not exist.
I said instead that it is an abstract entity.
For abstract i mean something that can not be perceived with our physical senses.[...]

Yeah... No - that's not what "abstract" means.  Just another thing you're wrong about.

abstract
adjective

ˈabstrakt/

1. 1.
   existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence.
   "abstract concepts such as love or beauty"
   synonyms:
   theoretical, conceptual, notional, intellectual, metaphysical,philosophical, academic; More
   
   
   
2. 2.
   relating to or denoting art that does not attempt to represent external reality, but rather seeks to achieve its effect using shapes, colours, and textures.
   "abstract pictures"
   synonyms:
   non-representational, non-realistic, non-pictorial, symbolic,impressionistic
   "abstract art"
   

So, are you trying to say, that consciousness is only a thought? Well - then how can a thought survive without a brain? Do you have a proof of thoughts or ideas, flying around by themselves? You don't? Oh, dear... It seems like you contradicted yourself again and proved that death of the brain is the end of consciousness. Or do you mean that consciousness is a form of art?

Maybe you should stop using words you don't understand?

You never change Nutter, do you?  
I am afraid that is you that contradict yourself.
One of your link definition of abstract goes..........existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence

So according this imbecile the mind and the consciousness have no concrete existence?
What a bullshit Nutter.  
What would you describe something as the mind and consciousness that you can not touch, see, hear, smell and taste?
If it is not something physical what else it is other than abstract?
You never thought about it Nutter, did you?

Oh by the way you still have to provide evidence to your statements that say that the believers are f...ed in the head.
Considering that this statement can not be back up with evidence i suggest you to apologize and admitting that you are a dude full of bullshit.  

[Little Rik]

You mean.......HOW CAN THERE......?

Anyway whatever you say my answer is......HOW CAN THERE BE A MIND IN YOUR HEAD?
I can not see a mind Pablo.
Have you got a mind?
If you got a mind i should be able to see it, to touch it, smell it and so on, don't I?
I hope you understand the stupidity of your latest comment.  

You mean, If I HAVE a mind, you should be able to smell it, SHOULDN'T YOU?
The answer is, no you wouldn't be able to smell my mind because the mind is the element of a person that enables them to be aware of the world and their experiences, to think, and to feel; the faculty of consciousness and thought.
This has nothing to do with my question.  I'm asking you why would you use a term used in physics and in general to describe the oscillation of a physical thing (vibration) when you believe nothing is physical?
If someone was to say consiousness doesn't exist, but then talk about cognition or dreams this would be contradictory since cognition and and dreams are a part of a persons consiouness.
If there are no physical things then there is nothing physical to vibtrate.  Unless you can describe how non physical things can vibrate.

Your problem Pablo is that you presume that vibrations must only be part of the physical reality.
Who said that?
Consciousness is not a physical reality but why should it be prevented from having vibrations?
My consciousness is different from yours and our consciousness are also different from anyone else and if a God exist must also be different from his-her one.
How would you think it would make sense to perceive these types of consciousness other than through
waves of vibrations?
You never thought about it Pablo, did you?  

[Edwardo Piet]

You missed my larger point and cherry picked one thing I said, spoken like a true theist Little Rik.

As I said consciousness is not abstract, the mind is a physical brain and what do you mean how can consciousness be sensed? It's all we can ever sense! Our consciousness is the sum total of all the subjective experiences we are aware of. It is our subjectivity itself. It's the one thing we know must exist because we are conscious of it so of course it can be sensed... it must be sensed. It is all forms of sensation and experience itself. It's the very opposite of abstract. It's the fact the lights are on. It's us the experiencer - which is not separate from the experience at all, they are one and the same thing, which is why the ego is an illusion.

[Little Rik]

You missed my larger point and cherry picked one thing I said, spoken like a true theist Little Rik.

As I said consciousness is not abstract, the mind is a physical brain and what do you mean how can consciousness be sensed? It's all we can ever sense! Our consciousness is the sum total of all the subjective experiences we are aware of. It is our subjectivity itself. It's the one thing we know must exist because we are conscious of it so of course it can be sensed... it must be sensed. It is all forms of sensation and experience itself. It's the very opposite of abstract. It's the fact the lights are on. It's us the experiencer - which is not separate from the experience at all, they are one and the same thing, which is why the ego is an illusion.

You see Evie.
The more you try to get out your confusion the more you sink in the quick sands.
Your problem is that you keep on presuming using the usual physical reality.
The consciousness grow or diminish according our experiences but is not the sum of experiences.
We are fully connected to this physical reality but we are not physical.
Or better say Our consciousness is not our body.
We may feel we are our body because we are stuck in it, that's all.
It is the illusion that play the trick.  

[Edwardo Piet]

The problem you have is you keep assuming consciousness is for some reason the exception to the rest of physical reality, you're making special pleading and where is your evidence?

But even if consciousness was non-physical it still is not abstract and is the one thing we are able to sense for sure.

My other point still remain, but I guess you're gonna keep cherry picking like a true theist.

[Homeless Nutter]

[...]What would you describe something as the mind and consciousness that you can not touch, see, hear, smell and taste?
If it is not something physical what else it is other than abstract?[...]

You cannot touch, see, hear, smell or taste carbon monoxide, a deadly gas - does that mean it's "abstract"? Hmmm? You didn't think about it, did you? Oh, right - you probably didn't know such a thing even existed, since you never went to school...

Words have meaning, dumbass - and you're using them wrong. I told you what "abstract" means - and it's not what you think it means. You fail to grasp what words like "science", "evidence", "atheism" and "hinduism-based sect"  mean either - among many others. No wonder you're confused.  

You're just parroting random "smart-sounding" words you don't understand, like a child, trying to impress adults. Well done...      

[Edwardo Piet]

Wow I thought I'd been overusing the emoticons lately

I am less worried now, so many bunny ears!!

P.S. Otherwise great post

[Homeless Nutter]

Wow I thought I'd been overusing the emoticons lately
[...]

Little Rik requires a lot of educational aides. Without funny pictures he loses interest, his eyes glaze over and his attention drifts off.

[Edwardo Piet]

Touché my friend, touché.

[Cato]

First you fail to back up with evidence the Nutter story which you agree with that say that the believers are f...ed in the head and that is dishonesty enough, not happy with that you come up with an other story that there is no evidence to say that God exist without you have first consider all option.
Now suppose that you call a plumber to fix your electrical wiring.
Don't you find obvious that he can not possibly carry on the task?
Your ignorance follow the same system.  
You think that with our physical senses we can understand whether God exist or not.
Sorry Cat you fail badly (once again).  

Fucked in the head is an apt description for someone that invokes extrasensory perception as the means of getting after this elusive entity called God.