what do non/anti-religion Deists and Theists believe ?

[jenny1972]

if i had a God concept it wouldnt escape the pitfall but since i dont have a concept of God and accept that God can be anything , i have just as many beliefs as you have but i dont claim to know they are true you are sure your beliefs are true even when there is no more foundation for them than my beliefs .

You clearly do.   God is, at the least, the rigger of games.  That's all you've shared with us in specific, but I'm sure there's more you keep privately.  Don't pretend to be so obtuse, it does you no service.   You assume I have beliefs at all, but honestly, judging by what believers call beliefs, I don't have any.  You claim to know that the statement "god exists" is true.......even though you are incapable of demonstrating your knowledge or even how you came about it, don't you?   Attempting to set up a false equivalence is the sign of a desperate mind.

Your shit stinks just the same as theirs.  Accept that.

i dont consider someones religious experience is ridiculous just because they are muslim or hindu .

Good for you, but I never accused -you- of it.  You do, however, consider them to be wrong for hypocritical non-reasons.  We often fail to see how the criticisms we levy against another apply equally to ourselves.

when did i say God was the rigger if games ?


i dont consider their religion wrong when did i say that it was wrong . i do think that all religions have been corrupted but there is probabally some truth in all religions i dont think any religion is 100% fabricated i think they center around a person actually having a spiritual experience .

[The Grand Nudger]

That's actually one of the explanations offered for the source of that narrative Wyrd. Where the author(s) took their inspiration. It's tenuous, of course.

[The Grand Nudger]

when did i say God was the rigger if games ?

Why did we evolve to be what we are, again, in your opinion? There's a -very- long conversation on these boards where you make this claim over and over, despite being corrected over and over again.

i dont consider their religion wrong when did i say that it was wrong . i do think that all religions have been corrupted but there is probabally some truth in all religions i dont think any religion is 100% fabricated i think they center around a person actually having a spiritual experience .

Should I quote the very post I responded to...do you insist on acting as though you never posted it, and do I need to..as you confirmed what I said in this very post as well?  Get, your, shit, together.

[Hmmm?]

i dont consider someones religious experience is ridiculous just because they are muslim or hindu .

Good for you, but I never accused -you- of it.  You do, however, consider them to be wrong for hypocritical non-reasons.  We often fail to see how the criticisms we levy against another apply equally to ourselves.

What makes you think that she conciders the religious experiences of Muslims and Hindus to be wrong?

Should I quote the very post I responded to...do you insist on acting as though you never posted it, and do I need to..as you confirmed what I said in this very post as well?  Get, your, shit, together.

Aww, shoot, I think I missed something.

[The Grand Nudger]

Her repeated insistence that they are, just in this thread, and of course in any other where she deigned to comment, for starters.

[jenny1972]

i dont consider someones religious experience is ridiculous just because they are muslim or hindu .

When the Israelites made the golden calf idol were the influenced by Hinduism?

hinduism is actually the oldest religion in the world did early christians have access to hindus through trade ? i know there was pagan influences everywhere so christianity probabally mixed with pagan beliefs at least a little .

[jenny1972]

when did i say God was the rigger if games ?

Why did we evolve to be what we are, again, in your opinion?  There's a -very- long conversation on these boards where you make this claim over and over, despite being corrected over and over again.

i dont consider their religion wrong when did i say that it was wrong . i do think that all religions have been corrupted but there is probabally some truth in all religions i dont think any religion is 100% fabricated i think they center around a person actually having a spiritual experience .

Should I quote the very post I responded to...do you insist on acting as though you never posted it, and do I need to..as you confirmed what I said in this very post as well?  Get, your, shit, together.

i dont know why we evolved to be what we are i do believe in intelligent design but i dont know what the purpose is to the design or plan is thats what religion answers that question . i dont believe any religion is completely right but there might be some truth in many religions so theyre not all wrong theyre just not perfect .

[The Grand Nudger]

So, not wrong, but not right?  You have a problem with words, huh? Fun fact about hinduism, did you know that hinduism is also the oldest source of atheism on record? Cavarka said, all that time ago, everything that any atheist has to say about religion today. That it's an exploitative business model for the priestly class, that there is no other world or next life, no gods to appease. Obviously that didn't take with the priestly class. Was Cavarka also corrupt, as a part of Hinduism, somehow?

These statements you make that are true and not true simultaneously, are tedious and incomprehensible. They are, in fact, gibberish. You believe that the various religions of the world are wrong and not wrong at the same time, and you focus on whichever is convenient to you, at any given moment, in order to excuse and draw attention away from your rank hypocrisy. You -do- have a god concept, and if you believe that the god concepts of others are somehow deficient and corrupt while yours are not, you're going to need to explain why..., swallow the pill you created for yourself, or be content with being called out as a hypocrite.

[jenny1972]

So, not wrong, but not right?  You have a problem with words, huh?  Fun fact about hinduism, did you know that hinduism is also the oldest source of atheism on record?  Cavarka said, all that time ago, everything that any atheist has to say about religion today.  That it's an exploitative business model for the priestly class, that there is no other world or next life, no gods to appease. Obviously that didn't take with the priestly class.  Was Cavarka also corrupt, as a part of Hinduism, somehow?

These statements you make that are true and not true simultaneously, are tedious and incomprehensible.  They are, in fact, gibberish.  You believe that the various religions of the world are wrong and not wrong at the same time, and you focus on whichever is convenient to you, at any given moment, in order to excuse and draw attention away from your rank hypocrisy.  You -do- have a god concept, and if you believe that the god concepts of others are somehow deficient and corrupt while yours are not, you're going to need to explain why...or, swallow the pill you created, yourself.

saying that a religion could have some truth to it but not completely true is the most logical thing you could say about religion nothing is created in a vacuum and theres a big difference between saying they are neither completely true and neither completely untrue and saying they are both true and untrue , what God concept do you think i have i say i have none i have no idea what God is why do you think i do when did i ever define God as having certain characteristics ?

[The Grand Nudger]

Again, your god is the rigger of games.  You use your god concept, at least in part, to explain something you do not understand - biology.  That's -just- what you've shared with us, and I would find it to be miraculous if that's the only gap in your own understanding that you've filled with a god (or a "not god", rather - "an intelligence", depending on which of your contradictory comments I'm supposed to take as truthful).  

Yet, you feel that it is appropriate to criticize others for doing so. To call their concepts corrupt for what yours is plainly and demonstrably guilty of as well. Pot, meet kettle.