Posts: 628
Threads: 19
Joined: November 15, 2015
Reputation:
4
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
December 3, 2015 at 3:31 pm
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2015 at 3:34 pm by DespondentFishdeathMasochismo.)
(December 3, 2015 at 3:30 pm)Losty Wrote: (December 3, 2015 at 3:27 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: I didn't say you.
You did imply it. When you say feminists are [insert thing here], that implies that you think feminists in general are that way. If you don't want to say that or don't mean it that way, then a better thing to say is I don't like the feminists who act this way If you don't want to get clumped in with the stupid shit feminists do, don't call yourself a feminist. I recommend egalitarian and humanist.
Before you say "well don't call yourself an atheist if you don't want to get clumped in with the stupid shit atheists do", you should know that atheism is just a belief that someone holds. Feminism is an ideology, which in this day and age has become very toxic.
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
December 3, 2015 at 3:34 pm
(December 3, 2015 at 3:29 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: It's not blaming the victim, it's just pointing out the obvious, also blatant hypocrisy by feminists. If you put controversial stuff out on the internet, especially shit that is blatantly antagonistic and condescending towards all of men, yes there's going to be people who hate you for it and try to fuck with you. I'm not one of them, but I'm just pointing out that it should be expected. Feminists cry about misogyny when it happens to them, but you can't say that what goes around doesn't come around, you can't say that there aren't people out there who will always act with extreme prejudice.
You're doing it again. I am a feminist. I am not a hypocrit. I do not put contoversial stuff on the internet especially not anything that is condescending towards any gender. Those people are out there out there but they're in the loud minority. Most feminists aren't that way. And we don't like to be lumped in with those people who don't represent our views.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 628
Threads: 19
Joined: November 15, 2015
Reputation:
4
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
December 3, 2015 at 3:35 pm
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2015 at 3:36 pm by DespondentFishdeathMasochismo.)
Refer to the post directly above you, losty.
You realize your no true feminist argument is the same thing as Christians who say that Christian extremists aren't real Christians.
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
December 3, 2015 at 3:39 pm
(December 3, 2015 at 3:31 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: (December 3, 2015 at 3:30 pm)Losty Wrote: You did imply it. When you say feminists are [insert thing here], that implies that you think feminists in general are that way. If you don't want to say that or don't mean it that way, then a better thing to say is I don't like the feminists who act this way If you don't want to get clumped in with the stupid shit feminists do, don't call yourself a feminist. I recommend egalitarian and humanist.
I am a feminist, and egalitarian, and a humanist. There are asshats in all three groups but such in life. In every group there will be some people that suck as people. Doesn't mean I'll stop calling myself any of those. Most feminists are like me. A few annoying people in the Internet are irrelevant to me. Your own opinion of feminism included, because some of the things you've said in this thread I find to be pretty awful as well.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
December 3, 2015 at 3:39 pm
(December 3, 2015 at 3:35 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: Refer to the post directly above you, losty.
You realize your no true feminist argument is the same thing as Christians who say that Christian extremists aren't real Christians.
I never made a no true feminist argument.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 628
Threads: 19
Joined: November 15, 2015
Reputation:
4
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
December 3, 2015 at 3:41 pm
(December 3, 2015 at 3:39 pm)Losty Wrote: (December 3, 2015 at 3:35 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: Refer to the post directly above you, losty.
You realize your no true feminist argument is the same thing as Christians who say that Christian extremists aren't real Christians.
I never made a no true feminist argument.
That was a euphemism for something else, idk if you noticed.
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
December 3, 2015 at 3:48 pm
I'm not an idiot I didn't make a no true Scotsman fallacy. I never said these people aren't real feminists. I simply said that just because some feminists (a low minority) are asshole extremists doesn't mean we all are. Some Christians believe God is an alien and good people will get there own planets when they die. They're real Christians and so are the millions of other Christians who think they're idiots.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 628
Threads: 19
Joined: November 15, 2015
Reputation:
4
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
December 3, 2015 at 3:52 pm
The thread is about why so many atheists dislike feminism. Now you know.
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
December 3, 2015 at 3:59 pm
(December 3, 2015 at 3:52 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: The thread is about why so many atheists dislike feminism. Now you know.
I've already known this whole time. This thread has like 76 pages and I knew the answer before I ever clicked the title the first time. Many atheists are anti feminists for the same reason many atheists are anti Muslim. They cast a blanket of judgment over a group of of millions (or even billions in the case of Muslims) of people based on the actions and behaviors of the extremist minority.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 628
Threads: 19
Joined: November 15, 2015
Reputation:
4
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
December 3, 2015 at 4:01 pm
(December 3, 2015 at 3:59 pm)Losty Wrote: (December 3, 2015 at 3:52 pm)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: The thread is about why so many atheists dislike feminism. Now you know.
I've already known this whole time. This thread has like 76 pages and I knew the answer before I ever clicked the title the first time. Many atheists are anti feminists for the same reason many atheists are anti Muslim. They cast a blanket of judgment over a group of of millions (or even billions in the case of Muslims) of people based on the actions and behaviors of the extremist minority. Anita Sarkeesian speaks at ted talks and at the united nations. She's a fucked up piece of shit, she has a major voice and she calls herself a feminist. I see that as pretty fucking bad.
|