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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
January 10, 2016 at 9:21 pm
(January 10, 2016 at 9:14 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (January 10, 2016 at 2:40 pm)Tiberius Wrote: If a rape victim consented to sex and then withdrew consent during the act, it's still rape if the person having sex with the victim continues to have sex with them.
It doesn't matter if someone is "asking for it". A person can request sex and then refuse it, even during the act. Consenting to sex doesn't mean you have to go through with the entire act. That's an excellent way to get murdered. That is seriously fucked up.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
January 10, 2016 at 9:23 pm
(January 10, 2016 at 9:21 pm)Mermaid Wrote: (January 10, 2016 at 9:14 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: That's an excellent way to get murdered. That is seriously fucked up.
I agree. Just because someone tells you to stop during the act, doesn't mean they're just gonna go and murder you. I know i wouldn't. I'd stop, and definitely not murder them.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
January 10, 2016 at 9:24 pm
(January 10, 2016 at 8:33 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (January 10, 2016 at 7:56 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Yeah. Unless you're with someone who is well practced at stopping themselves, by using a safe word or something similar, then you probably shouldn't start running for second base unless you intend to bring it home. Because sometimes it leads to things going wrong.
Safe word? Why can't "no, I don't want to do this anymore, stop" be enough? Why does someone need to be "practiced" in not raping someone when they are horny?
What I don't like is that you're kind of talking as though rape is an accidental thing that just "happens" and a man has no control over it once it's already started, or gotten close to starting. Perhaps that's not what you mean to say, but that's what it sounds like. And that specifically is what I'm taking issue with.
It seems to me like it was more a case of this guy being drunk, and they started something consensual, and when she started struggling he might not have realized this was an indication that she wanted it to stop, instead of just being rough sex. Yes, it's something you have to practice. When your mind is flooded with chemicals, you have to practice at being clear headed enough to know when to stop.
Sex is not a very left brain activity. There's not much intellectualism and objective reasoning going on.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
January 10, 2016 at 9:36 pm
In this case the woman seems to have made a successful career out of getting raped. She knew the guy had an eye for her and she cleverly manipulated the situation to bring them together. Once the incident happened she immediately took steps to publicize it in order to gain even more followers on her web site. Maybe the good news is that men will take notice of her web site and avoid her like the plague. Most likely she will ensnare another guy very soon and claim that she was raped. She's a sexual predator with severe mental problems.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
January 10, 2016 at 9:45 pm
Holy fuck.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
January 10, 2016 at 9:46 pm
(January 10, 2016 at 9:45 pm)The_Empress Wrote: Holy fuck.
Like we know exactly what happened?
Gotta be honest, everyone here is just gasping like it's outrageous to suggest she did anything wrong, without any acknowledgement of the clear and obvious context.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
January 10, 2016 at 9:46 pm
Not gonna lie, Wyrd... that's one hell of a claim to make.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
January 10, 2016 at 9:49 pm
(January 10, 2016 at 9:12 pm)paulpablo Wrote: (January 10, 2016 at 8:27 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I absolutely do.
I'm not a feminazi just because I objected to someone else saying a rape victim has no right to be upset about getting raped.
I can't find where he actually said that she has no right to be upset.
Not explicitly, but insinuated as much here:
(January 10, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Chad32 Wrote: You decided to get intimate with a drunk person, and are upset that he didn't stop at the point you wanted to stop.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
January 10, 2016 at 9:50 pm
(January 10, 2016 at 9:49 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (January 10, 2016 at 9:12 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I can't find where he actually said that she has no right to be upset.
Not explicitly, but insinuated as much here:
(January 10, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Chad32 Wrote: You decided to get intimate with a drunk person, and are upset that he didn't stop at the point you wanted to stop. Me and Chad are two different people, so that bears no relevance to his point.
I never stated she had no right to be upset.
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RE: Another raaaaaaaaaape!!!
January 10, 2016 at 9:51 pm
(January 10, 2016 at 9:46 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (January 10, 2016 at 9:45 pm)The_Empress Wrote: Holy fuck.
Like we know exactly what happened?
Gotta be honest, everyone here is just gasping like it's outrageous to suggest she did anything wrong, without any acknowledgement of the clear and obvious context.
Did I indicate anywhere that I know what happened? In fact, with my comment, I was objecting to those who seem to think they do know what happened, and suggesting she did anything wrong falls within that context.
Holy fuck.
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