Attention Theists! Present your best argument for the existence of God!

[Edwardo Piet]

It's a pity that homophobia is perhaps quite 'normal'.

[Dotard]

I would like to respond to that, DvF. 'Homophobia' is a word slung, by those who wish to convince others, and try to rationalize it to themselves, that their abnormal sexual behavior is 'normal', at anyone who disagrees with them.

So I would like to ask, "Why is it a pity"?, but with that overly mis-used discriptor there the question really wouldn't be valid. Yes homophobia would not be a good thing and would be a 'pity' if it were 'normal', but maintaining homosexuality is abnormal and challenging self-serving "this will make me fell better about my abnormality" posts such as DPs arguement from homosexuality does not a "homophobe" make.

[DeistPaladin]

It's a pity that homophobia is perhaps quite 'normal'.

My guess is that homophobia is a misfiring by-product of cultural ethics.

[Ashendant]

I would like to respond to that, DvF. 'Homophobia' is a word slung, by those who wish to convince others, and try to rationalize it to themselves, that their abnormal sexual behavior is 'normal', at anyone who disagrees with them.

So I would like to ask, "Why is it a pity"?, but with that overly mis-used discriptor there the question really wouldn't be valid. Yes homophobia would not be a good thing and would be a 'pity' if it were 'normal', but maintaining homosexuality is abnormal and challenging self-serving "this will make me fell better about my abnormality" posts such as DPs arguement from homosexuality does not a "homophobe" make.

HAHA, like being straight is normal sexual behaviour, like Homosexuals and Heterosexuals or any other sexual labels exist, like your body cares from where the friction that makes sex from which gender came, it's laughable really how cultural and media indoctrination makes people stupid.


People should start by just shutting up about it and just do it.

[Watson]

It's probably best to cease arguing with Dotard about this whole thing right now, as he's made it quite clear he's only looking to pick a fight about a hot button issue because he gets his jollies or something. It'll sidetrack this topic more to indulge this.

As for my best arguments for God? Well, I first agree with fr0do that God cannot be known. Not within our conventional, concrete standard of knowing at least.

Other than that I insist that you look around and observe the way in which things work a little more. It's funny because you atheists like to talk about how the world works quite a lot and use that somehow as counter-evidence for why God can't or doesn't exist. Coincidence, science, materialism or what-have-you...but you don't seem to talk about the fact that it all works. By that I mean that this world, this universe, works in an efficient and timely way as to be in complete working order. All the conditions were right for a universe to be born and exist.

Not only that, all the conditions, the infintesimally small factors, were in place from the very beginning moment leading up to this one for a planet such as ours to spawn life. And then for that life to become us...the odds are literally beyond impossible. So then it becomes a question of, 'to what end?' And so going beyond that, it becomes a question of whether or not the 'end' to which the universe leads is ingrained within it from the very beginning...as in, all moments leading up to the universe's 'end' were there from the 'beginning.'

Full circle.

[thesummerqueen]

Toys aren't "natural" yet no one seems to have a problem getting off with them...and no one has a problem with another person doing so. You're fucking a piece of plastic, not a warm flesh and blood human being. It can vibrate, spin around, have lights and whistles, some plug into a music device to pulse along with it, they're in all sorts of shapes and sizes and materials (the blown glass dildos actually look quite tasteful)...

So...in comparison...how exactly is homosexuality with another human being...abnormal?

[leo-rcc]

"See, the water, the tide comes in and it goes out, Mr. Silverman. It always comes in, and always goes out. You can't explain that."

Solid argument, case closed.

[Dotard]

Uh... heterosexuality is normal sexual behavior. You saying it is not?

[Watson]

"See, the water, the tide comes in and it goes out, Mr. Silverman. It always comes in, and always goes out. You can't explain that."

Solid argument, case closed.

I want to punch him in the head sometimes.

[thesummerqueen]

Heterosexuality is the way to procreate. Nothing terribly 'normal' beyond that.

Otherwise I'm one strange bitch for lusting after Kate Beckinsale.